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Re: [luv-talk] Is Windows really this awful?
by Brian May 31 May '12

31 May '12

On 31 May 2012 10:38, Daniel Pittman <daniel(a)rimspace.net> wrote: > ...and, of course, Windows doesn't do quote processing or command line > parsing in any particular standard way, so each process gets the > entire single string with the rest of the command line on it. There are some advantages however. Examples from memory. So not sure if they are still valid or not. move ../file.* will move those files to the CWD (if move is not valid in DOS use copy instead), under Unix however, mv ../file.* will expand (assuming two files match) into say: mv ../file.c ../file.bak (I did this once at Uni, my tutor thought I had lost my file; fortunately I realized what really happened) Or even worse: mv ../file.bak ../file.c which is probably not what you want. At least if there is only one match or more then one and the last is not a directory, it will complain. Also I believe this is valid in DOS: rename *.bak *.c Will rename all *.bak files to have a *.c -- Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au>

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Re: [luv-talk] limit concurrent connections with squid
by Trent W. Buck 30 May '12

30 May '12

James Harper wrote: > > > > From my experiance with the srw stuff it's not that the system is incapable of > > serving that many connections it's just that the software is absolutely shit.the > > srw2048 is not something you could replace with an eepc or simliar it's a layer > > 2 48 port switch that is fairly cheap (to be honest i would recommend the hp > > 1810 or cisco sr300 these days and avoid the srw switches but based on the > > branding this has been around for a while.) > > > > and i guess they still have the horrendous IE only ui (btw you can actually get > > a serial connection that is less fail on the switches http://www.crc.id.au/real- > > console-on-linksys-srw2024-switch/ Someone, i.e. not me, ought to start a site that lists every switch imaginable, how to get to its real (i.e. serial or SSH) UI, and just how shit and limited that UI is. \begin{rant} The vendors are useless. Last time I had to buy a switch, you call up the vendor and say "I want one with serial management goddammit" and they say "yeah sure no worries it has a serial port", and you unbox it and within five seconds discover that the "serial interface" is a curses-type screen with about two settings: "IP for web UI" and "password for web UI". I found out about ^Z (as the link above) about a day later, but I sure as shit didn't learn about it from the vendor. Nor, obviously, was there any documented about where its UI differed from normal IOS. I remember a different switch with an "IOS-like" interface that actually had typos in the command set (e.g. you had to type "cnofigure" instead of "configure"). This fad of dumping everthing into the browser needs to FOAD. \end{rant}

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Copying part of web page into LibreOffice Writer document
by Carl Turney 29 May '12

29 May '12

Hi All, Wondering if any LibreOffice wizards out there... Have copied and pasted part of a web page (text and pictures) into a LibreOffice Writer document. After saving and reopening the document, I note that the pictures will NOT appear, unless I am on-line. They need to be downloaded from the net =each= time I access the document. How can I overcome that? Have tried right-click and paste, as well as Edit > Past Special > HTML. Am I not exercising some option in the Save As command? Should I tweak some setting in the Tools > Options? Note: I'm saving in MS Word 97...2003 format, and set my default that way. Thanks very much, Carl Turney Melbourne

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Solar Panels
by dan062 28 May '12

28 May '12

Hello I am considering installing solar panels at home. Anyone is willing to share experience, good and bad, and any recommendation please? I will probably be installing a small system which will most likely meet most of my needs. Cheers Daniel.

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Re: [luv-talk] Solar Panels
by Andrew Mather 28 May '12

28 May '12

Firstly, apologies if this mangles threaded readers, I only get the digest. > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:59:17 +1000 > From: dan062 <dan062(a)yahoo.com.au> > Subject: [luv-talk] Solar Panels > To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au > Message-ID: <20120528105917.4a39ca91@git-mint13-a> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hello > > I am considering installing solar panels at home. > > Anyone is willing to share experience, good and bad, and any > recommendation please? > > I will probably be installing a small system which will most likely > meet most of my needs. > We have just gone down this path and are due to have our 5KW system deployed as soon as we get some weather where the guy won't get blown or washed off the roof ! Firstly, do you know those needs ? As in, do you know what your average daily consumption of power is and therefore how much of a contribution the system you want to put in is going to make ? You can get figures around the averages, but your site can make a huge difference. If you have enough space an open (no trees), north-facing roof with an appropriate slope, or where brackets can create such slope, then you will do pretty well against those average figures. But if you don't, then your panels won't perform as well. There are obviously some unscrupulous cowboys out there who will install too-small systems on wrongly oriented roofs, going by some of the installations I have seen. Either that, or the people are so desperate to say they have solar power that they ignore the good advice of the tradesman. Those are the only reasons I can think of to see 1.5KW systems installed on a South-easterly facing roof. I recommend that you get advice from a company who have been around for a while and preferably one that has interests other than just Solar (ie wind, composting toilets and other green technologies). These guys are more likely to be "true believers" and not just in it to scoop up some government subsidy $$'s and they are more likely to use quality panels. Cheap chinese panels should be avoided, but there are also some good chinese manufacturers. Beware the hidden charges that pop up when they come to give you a quote. Some of the cowboys will quote a very low price, but then miraculously, all these extra things need doing at your place. Happy to chat off-list about this if you like and depending on your location, I can give you the details of the guys who are doing ours. They put a solar water heater on our roof 4 or 5 years ago and we have known them for ages before that. Hope it works out well for you ! Andrew -- - http://surfcoast.redbubble.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Unless someone like you, cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better...It's not !" - The Lorax -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A committee is a cul-de-sac, down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled. *Sir Barnett Cocks<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sir_Barnett_Cocks/> * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it's not open." :- Frank Zappa -

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iodine
by Russell Coker 23 May '12

23 May '12

I'm currently completing a survey for someone's psychology research. One of the questions is "I would never try to get away with using pay-for-use WiFi Internet access if I hadn't actually paid for it". I've done more than a few surveys and it's the first time I've seen a question like that! IP over DNS works almost everywhere and the "iodine" implementation while a little clunky works well. It also gives you more than 20 minutes at McDonalds. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Apt or Synaptic output as an input script?
by Carl Turney 07 May '12

07 May '12

Hi All, This the best forum for such a question? I'm using Ubuntu Lucid (until July, when I'll go over to Precise). Wondering if there's any sort of terminal command parameter for apt, or menu option in Synaptic, where I can get a dump or list of every package currently installed in my laptop Lucid system? But wait, there's more... I want to =use= this list to "synchronise" with my desktop Lucid, which has been in storage for 9 months. i.e. I want to use the output of my laptop to tell apt or Synaptic to install all those programs not already on the desktop. There will be some already installed, obviously. I'd update all packages on both systems first. This is a potential time-saver, compared to doing it manually. Have searched and researched, but can't figure it out. Thanks, Carl Turney Melbourne Mobile 0427 024 735

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"Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy" on ABC1 tv 9:30 TONIGHT
by David E Payne 06 May '12

06 May '12

As with it's subject, the few reviews I've read of this doco cover a wide spectrum of opinions. Apparently the aim was to show the Haight-Ashbury based hippy/freaks movement influenced nearby Silicon Valley's push to spread computers from big Govt, military & corporations into homes & small businesses. Perhaps comparable to John Markoff's book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Dormouse_Said & the doco made of that. (see also http://www.thefix.com/content/steve-jobs-think-different-and-lsd-9143 ) I'm not impressed by the newspaper description that refers yet again to Apple supposedly having started in a garage. It takes real effort to be less accurate than Wikipedia but our glorious professional mass-media do it every-time on this subject!

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Any radio hams or AV techs in LUV?
by Carl Turney 04 May '12

04 May '12

Hi All, My apologies if this is too off-topic. Just back after 5 years overseas, and new to the whole Freeview Australia phenomenon. Wondering if any LUV members are also ham radio enthusiasts, or well into audio-visual issues? I'd like to chat off-list about such things as endorsed vs unendorsed set top boxes, satellite rather than terrestrial receivers, limitations on saving broadcasts, transferring data to (Linux) computers, receiving other channels from the same (or other) satellites (e.g. Al Jazeera, BBC). Thank you, Carl Turney Mobile 0427 024 735

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Re: [luv-talk] Slavery vs Marriage Equality
by Russell Coker 02 May '12

02 May '12

On Tue, 1 May 2012, Michael Scott <luv(a)inoz.net> wrote: > Did you see any of the parts of the Bible which quote Jesus saying that the > Pharisees, in their use of the "law of Moses" were wrong? > > The Bible wasn't pro-slavery... it simply said that slaves should respect > their masters. It also said that the people who are least will be the > greatest in the kingdom of heaven... as an extension of that. It portrayed > Jesus as a servant. Slavery was a fact in first century Israel. In Australia I think that all churches would support every slave who testifies against their owner in court. I think that a reasonable interpretation of our laws regarding self-defense would also allow a slave to kill their owner in order to escape. The majority of Australia's population declare themselves to be Christian, that means most police, most judges, and most members of juries. None of them seem to think that slaves should respect their owners. Advocating that slaves respect their owners IS advocating slavery. > Russell, if you want to come out and quote articles, and tell people that > they "don't understand Christianity" as you told me, maybe you should do > some reading yourself, and understand what you are talking about. You proved Dan Savage's point. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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