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REMOVAL
by Gideon Shaw 23 Jun '12

23 Jun '12

Please remove me from the mailing list Thank you

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Re: [luv-talk] Fairfax and Rinehard - end of free press?
by Peter Ross 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Hi Alex, On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Alex Hutton wrote: > Consider that you as an individual could commission a journalist (or > better yet, an investigator) to investigate into a particular matter > that you might be interested in, No. I can't. And the majority of people can't. I don't have the income necessary to sponsor a journalist. BTW, In Germany, there is one newspaper founded in the last 50 years, the tageszeitung (taz - http://www.taz.de) who is sponsored by members, in a way communal radio (e.g.) is here. It is there since early 80ies, grown out of grassroot movements (Green, anti-war, ant-nuclear). It is struggling to survive for most of its life. The German market is ca. 4 times the Australian population. A similar Australian newspaper, online or not, should share content with international, english-speaking media, to become sustainable. The Huffington Post has localized websites, New York, San Francisco, and U.K. That looks like a model to to me. BTW: even the "metropolitean" Australian press seems to be very city-centric, and then the rest of the world is covered by European or American views. Occasionally I read The Australian, and one of the resons is: It covers the Australian outback, including Aboriginal affairs, in a way The Age doesn't. The surrounding island countries are very foreign for us too. Papua-Neuguinea is the country with the Kokoda trail, isn't it? And Singapore is the place thousands soldiers became Japanese prisoners of war. I don't want to belittle this, it is part of Australian history, and good to know. But the current politics, including our dealings with them (e.g. our mining interests), of these places, these countries are virtually unknown to the majority of Australians. An English or American view does not shine a light here. My Chinese wife bought a Taiwanese magazine recently. It was interestingly written in English and Chinese side by side, and covered topics completely unknown to me. Given that my company has business relations to Taiwan, it isn't really far-far away. But in regards of knowledge of their society, it is. Coming back to the orginal topic, I learnt over the last days that a take-over attempt around 1990 sparked protest and a movement, including an attempt of "Friends of Fairfax" (or similar) to buy the newspapers, and a rally lead by Whithlam and Hawke, and leading to a contract guaranteeing the acknowledgement of editorial indepencence by the board. It seemed to matter to the public then. It still does? I joke sometimes that Australians cannot breed a Hitler because they are too lazy to be fanatics. Which is a good thing. The other side of the coin seems to be complacency, the majority seems to care about anything anymore, and I find it quite frustrating. Regards Peter

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How to prevent Gay Marriage Rights without even trying.
by Brent Wallis 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/churches-scaremongering-on-same… My Gay friends are really pissed off at this nonsense. Why must the Greens continually insist that an individuals rights to freedom of association/religion is somehow anti same sex marriage. The tone of this obviously biased story is that people of religious bent are drones willing to listen to what is preached. Damn it! A person who commits to another person for life deserves common law rights. Mixing that up with religious mumbo jumbo will illicit responses like this Australian trash every time. ....someone needs to sit down with the Greens PR wankers and tell em to pull their head in!!! In short, the watermelons need to shut the fuck up or else they will screw up the very thing that they and majority of us want! BW

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Test message - Please ignore.
by Daniel Jitnah 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Just doing a test on the LUV lists - please ignore and apology for inconvenience. Cheers Daniel

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How not to deal with human resources
by Peter Ross 10 Jun '12

10 Jun '12

.. aka staff, I have just a very great example amongst my friends. She is working for a bigger company for six years by now. For most of the last year her manager was sick (cancer) so she filled the role, without any pay rise, organizing everything as he would be there. And she was the "to go to" for every contact from other departments. It looks as the manager is loosing his battle, sadly. Now the HR people hired someone to replace him. At no stage she was asked. In this company it looks as women are treated like cleaners. While they are running a lot of the business, management and money is reserved for a boys club, it seems. I wonder whether she has any chance to launch a complaint. Regards Peter

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Christianity as the default religion
by Russell Coker 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/04/26/christian-is-not-a-religion/ Interesting analysis of a current US legal issue. A cross can only be considered to be a generic sign (not specific to Christianity) if Christianity is the default religious state. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] Is Windows really this awful?
by Jason White 31 May '12

31 May '12

Daniel Pittman <daniel(a)rimspace.net> wrote: > ...and, of course, Windows doesn't do quote processing or command line > parsing in any particular standard way, so each process gets the > entire single string with the rest of the command line on it. > > Which makes for hilarity as every developer implements command line > splitting and quoting themselves. And I suppose those developers tend to support it inconsistently. I've heard that the Windows command line still resembles DOS, i.e., batch files, DOS commands, drive letters, \ path separators. Is that right? How are spaces in file names handled if there is no built-in support for quoting? I'm one of those "never used Windows" people who moved away from Microsoft products in the DOS days.

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Is Windows really this awful?
by Russell Coker 31 May '12

31 May '12

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Core-Launcher.aspx Do they seriously mangle paths that badly? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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please remove me
by Gigliotti, Joseph 31 May '12

31 May '12

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Re: [luv-talk] Is Windows really this awful?
by Tim Connors 31 May '12

31 May '12

On Wed, 30 May 2012, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tony Langdon <vk3jed(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2012, Russell Coker wrote: > >>http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Core-Launcher.aspx > >> > >>Do they seriously mangle paths that badly? > > > > ROFL! I haven't tested this one myself, I've always been careful to > > quote any path with spaces in it in Windows. > > ...and, of course, Windows doesn't do quote processing or command line > parsing in any particular standard way, so each process gets the > entire single string with the rest of the command line on it. > > Which makes for hilarity as every developer implements command line > splitting and quoting themselves. I read the source to the borland delphi circa version 1.0 libraries, and they split out strings separated by spaces, and then joined them back together with a single space if there were quotes involved. So "Program Files/MooCow" got converted to "Program Files/MooCow". Awesome job, dudes! -- Tim Connors

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