luv-talk November 2014

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33 discussions

East West Link - contacting the government

by Peter Ross

Hi all, Labor opposing East West Link - good news, at least for me. There is no contract signed yet - so all uncertainty claims are quite strange. It is up to the government in power to create certainty - by waiting with the contracts until after the election. The process is before the courts because the link did not go through a proper planning, assessment and consultation process yet. The lack of process created the uncertainty. So the government can correct it by honouring process. This would make it a decision made by a government which asked for a mandate from the electorate. Below my letter to Terry Mulder (terence.mulder(a)parliament.vic.gov.au). Maybe you would like to contact him too? Thanks Peter Dear Terry, the Labor decision to dump the East West Link is a good one for us in Melbourne. Please cancel the project if you care for Victoria. It may save hundred of millions or billions of dollars of claims when the project finally ends in the bin, as it should. The East West Link is not a properly planned project. I contacted you before about my concerns. Some of the events and claims are truly bizarre if you are familiar with the area as I am. I work in Kensington. I frequently use the bike track along the Mooney Ponds Creek you want to overshadow with another bunch of lanes. I also spend a lot of time waiting for and in trains from and to Craigieburn and Upfield which never go on time. It is not a surprise that the whole case is before the courts. The rush to lock it in resulted in a shoddy process which defies logic and did never satisfy requirements of proper consulting with the public. Even now, the design is still work in progress, and some of the "corrections" over time looked as professional as me designing a model train with my son. How can this being assessed? How can the community have a sufficient input in this process? How can you sign contracts with this uncertainty? It will be a liability for any future government and all Victorians. A tender process where you continue with one bidder only is another detail not making sense. I never do that if I want a good deal. You were elected with the Liberals claiming support for the Metro Rail Link. You did not advance the project. Instead it became another train wreck of "planning on the run". Please bring that back into action instead of tinkering with the East West Link if you want to do something for Victoria. Thank you Peter [contact details]

7 years, 5 months

The Jolla Tablet

by thelionroars

The crowdfunding campaign for the Jolla tablet has been launched in the past few hours, and is already 100% beyond its funding goal. In a nutshell, it's an open source OS based on Linux that is also capable of running Android applications. It has some similar specs to an iPad mini and is shipping in May 2015 for around $220. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jolla-tablet-world-s-first-crowdsourced-… For those not familiar with Jolla and Sailfish: http://jolla.com/tablet Australia is not included in the countries for shipping, but is the highest voted for in the poll for which countries to add.

8 years, 1 month

The Lab

by Russell Coker

I highly recommend The Lab. Liquid nitrogen ice cream made while you watch. http://goo.gl/maps/YEuUo -- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with K-9 Mail.

8 years, 2 months

Fwd: Opposing marriage equality

by Michael Scott

This is my response to Russell which was lost when the LUV server was down. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Scott <luv(a)inoz.net> Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [luv-talk] Opposing marriage equality To: Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> Cc: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Michael Scott <luv(a)inoz.net> wrote: > > You've made a generalised judgement about "those people", you've > stretched > > death threats against a 14yo actor > > That's death threats against a 5yo actress. > Actor/Actress. Who's being sexist now? > > > for a show which includes lesbian > > partners to your subject title "Opposing marriage equality", and YOUR > link > > refers to one of "YOUR" people actually shooting someone!! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council > > # In 2010, the FRC paid $25,000 to congressional lobbyists for what they > # described as "Res.1064 Ugandan Resolution Pro-homosexual promotion" in a > # lobbying disclosure report.[38] The US House of Representatives > resolution > # condemned the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill,[39] a bill which, among > other > # things, would have imposed either the death penalty or life imprisonment > for > # sexual relations between persons of the same sex > > # The Southern Poverty Law Center designated the FRC as a hate group in the > # Winter 2010 > > # A shooting incident outside the FRC headquarters in 2012 > > I've quoted the relevant sections of the Wikipedia page above. Relevant to whom? > After the FRC > spent a lot of money lobbing in favor of the death penalty for gay people > in > Uganda they were listed as a hate group. After that a FRC security guard > was > shot. > > Shooting a security guard is the wrong thing to do and the shooter is > serving > jail time for it. Causing people to be killed by unjust laws in Uganda is > also the wrong thing to do. > I couldn't agree more. You've generalised about ALL people who disagree with same sex marriage, because some nut jobs made death threats against a young actor. A nut job shoots a security guard outside a FRC building, and you don't see the irony? Should I be worried about YOU shooting me because of my beliefs? Do you believe that I would make death threats against somebody ASSOCIATED with a TV show, because the TV show had a same-sex couple? YOU'RE drawing that line.

8 years, 2 months

Indiegogo updates....

by Andrew McGlashan

Hi, I chose to support a project and pledged monies on that project. What I want to know is: "Is it normal to get lots of /nothing/ updates, and I mean *LOTS* ?" I'm already sold on the product and the updates don't tell me anything new of any significance. Also, I was surprised that "stretch" goals were being used as a means to up-sell, rather than reward the supporters -- you want a gold one? Okay as an original supporter you can have it for $10 more per unit. The marketing rubbish on an already subscribed campaign is extreme. So much so, that I would consider pulling my support (not sure if I can or not). Thoughts? A.

8 years, 2 months

From 2pm today, volunteer warehouse ah.. renovation

by David E Payne

It warms my heart to see a bunch of community minded youngsters planning to paint & redecorate an old warehouse without payment from the owner. https://www.facebook.com/events/358905414271359/ Dav* "This 31 October, it will be time to dress up, show off your best ideas and maybe even scare a few people. You guessed it: it’s the inaugural World Cities Day." http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/sep/02/2014-world-cities-day-challen…

8 years, 2 months

Re: [luv-talk] The Jolla Tablet

by Peter Ross

From: "thelionroars" <thelionroars1337(a)gmail.com> > > For those not familiar with Jolla and Sailfish: http://jolla.com/tablet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS#Privacy Responding to privacy concerns in light of the PRISM spying program that came to light in summer 2013, a company representative said the US National Security Agency (NSA) would have no access to Jolla's servers. "Jolla servers are not in US, so we are not subject to any US rules or regulations regarding disclosing information." I rather work with devices which do not store my private data on servers at all. Regards Peter

8 years, 2 months

Indiegogo updates....

by Andrew McGlashan

8 years, 2 months

luv mail server back..... it was down for a few at least 3 days...

by Andrew McGlashan

Hi, What happened to the luv mail server? I just got an email [to the list] that was sent on the 12th November. An email was in my mail server's queue since the 16th (2:05am) -- just got my mail server to process that email. A.

8 years, 2 months

GST

by Russell Coker

Tony Abbott wants to increase GST and apply it to more items. The Liberal goal of increasing taxes on poor people is going well. Of course they could reduce the threshold for GST on imports and apply it to all those Kogan phones imported from Hong Kong for example, among other things that would help companies that actually run the businesses in Australia. But even taxing $500 phones would tend to hit the wealthier people and the multinational phone companies instead of poor people and farmers. -- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with K-9 Mail.

8 years, 2 months

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luv-talk November 2014