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Re: [luv-talk] Computer parts
by Russell Coker 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, stripes theotoky <stripes.theotoky(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Can anyone on the list give me any recommendations for online stores > to buy computer parts or for that matter warnings of places to avoid. http://www.staticice.com.au/ Static Ice is a good way of getting the best prices, if you are going to get no useful service you might as well get the best price. http://www.graysonline.com/ But generally I recommend buying systems from Grays Online. You can get refurbished name-brand systems with warranty for very low prices - cheaper than a white-box system. Building systems stopped being fun for me a long time ago, so I'd rather just get a system that works. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] Computer parts -> moved to Luv-talk
by Daniel Jitnah 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

I think this thread is more appropriate for luv-talk. Moving it there. Cheers Daniel On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:34:16 +1100 stripes theotoky <stripes.theotoky(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Can anyone on the list give me any recommendations for online stores > to buy computer parts or for that matter warnings of places to avoid. > I am looking to build my first system since coming to this country and > don't know any of the suppliers. I always used to use > http://www.ebuyer.com when I was in the UK and am looking for > something similar in Melbourne. > > Stripes. > _______________________________________________ > luv-main mailing list > luv-main(a)luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main -- ---------------------------------------- Daniel Jitnah Melbourne, Australia e: djitnah(a)greenwareit.com.au w: www.greenwareit.com.au SIP: dj-git(a)ekiga.net ---------------------------------------- ** For All your Linux, Open Source and IT requirements visit: www.greenwareit.com.au ** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. For All your Open Source and IT requirements see: www.greenwareit.com.au

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Charles Stross: Not an April Fool - on social media and aggregation
by Brent Wallis 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Hi, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > But lately, I have been deemed a philistine because I refuse to do any > > blog, linkdn, lamebook or google- time wasting....... > > That's a lot of different things. Yes, but they can all be linked together.... > > Blogging is different because people > explicitely publish things that they want to publish, there is no great > pressure to publish more and everyone knows it's world-readable. > Agreed. > > LinkedIn is also presumably different because it's work based which means that > whole categories of personal data are out of scope for it. > True, but when that data is mined and associated with a lamebook profile and twits...the game changes. Information aggregation across many social networks by third parties is a real threat IMHO. > > > Some in the global debate deem my attitude as being criminal.....~"What > > have I got to hide?" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kx05kU5gZg > http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/pet_shop_boys/integral.html > > # If you've done nothing wrong > # You've got nothing to fear > # If you've something to hide > # You shouldn't even be here > > The Pet Shop Boys sum it up well in "Integral". Am not sure on your stance here. Based on just the quote above I am guessing that you support such a stance? That a person who hides their on line persona has something to hide? Yet the next few lines in the song are: "You've had your chance Now we've got the mandate If you've changed your mind I'm afraid it's too late We're concerned You're a threat You're not integral To the project" Which for me indicates that the first statement was a sarcastic dig at such an attitude. ??...you have confused me Russell...:-) Rgds

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Charles Stross: Not an April Fool - on social media and aggregation
by Rodney Brown 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2012/03/not-an-april-fool-1.html Not an April Fool By Charlie Stross There is an app, currently on the Apple app store as a free download, called Girls Around Me. A couple of days ago, computer journalist John Brownlee wrote an essay about it explaining why he found it disturbing. I'd like to propose that it is symptomatic of a really major side-effect of our forced acculturation into Facebook's broken model of human social interaction—a broken model shared by all the most successful social networks, by design—and that it is going to get much worse, until it kills people. Quite possibly in very large numbers. ... The Pythonisters might like (with an Arduino tie-in too) (Video) http://css.dzone.com/articles/militarizing-your-backyard Militarizing Your Backyard with Python: Computer Vision and the Squirrel Hordes

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Re: [luv-talk] Gay marriage is traditional
by Russell Coker 31 Mar '12

31 Mar '12

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Michael Scott <mds(a)inoz.net> wrote: > Russell, please at least be honest with your posts. The "member of this > list" didn't try to "convince" you of anything. Just asked you to read a > book which I have read. Pretty much the same as your asking me to read YOUR > "propaganda". The difference of course is that I cited web pages which can be freely read with a single mouse click. While you are implicitely requesting that I donate money to an organisation I oppose to read their propaganda. Now if they were to make a free ebook of it for download in PDF then I might even read a couple of pages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_marriage#Ancient Your claim that no church in history has ever permitted Gay marriage, but there is lots of evidence. In general claiming that something has never been done in human history is one of those extraordinary claims which requires extraordinary evidence - not just some hand-waving. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churc… Even aside from that, the fact that so many modern churches are blessing Gay marriages and civil unions (in the case where the church accepts Gay relationships but the state doesn't) makes it quite implausible that all the different churches over the period from ~50 to ~1900 have had unanimous agreement on this issue in spite of having no real contact with each other. > The first article mentions a rape victim and says that she "must marry the > rapist", when in fact Deuteronomy says the rapist must marry the victim. I > can't comment on the culture of the time....thousands of years BC.... about > the status of women. It's easy to believe everything you read, especially > if it says what you want it to say. http://www.care2.com/causes/a-woman-should-not-have-to-marry-her-rapist.html We don't need to discuss "thousands of years BC" when such things are happening today. The above article describes the situation and explains why the victim isn't legally compelled to marry her rapist, but social pressure from her family forces her to. > Even examples of people in the church participating in gay sex doesn't mean > The Church accepts it. It just means that no-one is perfect. The people who oppose gay marriage seem to be less perfect than most judging by the weird stuff the conversion therapy people do. > You said to me that I don't understand Christianity. You have shown that > YOU have NO understanding of Christianity. Christians are not perfect. What > Christians have is a faith. Not a perfection. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/good_list.html Christians are not supposed to be judgmental, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/13.html Christians are supposed to have charity, "and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing". Now if Christians were to demonstrate those qualities when it comes to the debate about what the secular laws should be regarding marriage then we wouldn't be having an argument. > In that faith I don't hold any "dislike" for gays/lesbians. As I said to > you, I have many gay/lesbian friends. But you refused to believe me in > that. I offered to give their details to you, but you ignored that and said > "they all say that". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_marriage#Health_issues If they are such good friends then why are you acting in a way that has a negative impact on their health? Surely you would want your friends to have all the health and financial benefits that derive from being married. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Gay marriage is traditional
by Russell Coker 31 Mar '12

31 Mar '12

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-forgotten-history-of-gay-marriage.html It's interesting to note that the church used to accept Gay marriage. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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small b-bastardry of the legal kind
by Tim Connors 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

When big companies see their overpriced hardware threatened by the fact that they can be replaced with $2 apps: http://niederfamily.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/goliath-v-david-aac-style.html -- Tim Connors

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Petition for the United States to Redress Wrongs Committed Against the Chagos Islanders:
by dan062 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

Sign the Petition for the United States to Redress Wrongs Committed Against the Chagos Islanders: http://wh.gov/Xbb Thanks Daniel. ---------------------------------------- Daniel Jitnah Melbourne, Australia e: djitnah(a)greenwareit.com.au w: www.greenwareit.com.au SIP: dj-git(a)ekiga.net ----------------------------------------

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Re: [luv-talk] Any practical way to improve glacial page downloads?
by Trent W. Buck 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

Tim Connors wrote: > (I was just looking at smart phone prepaid plans. None are suitable > for me. I want to pay less than $20 per month, which I can do with > a non smartphone by virtue of having some credit that can last 365 > days, as long as I don't use it. Which I don't. Very few providers > seem to realise that not everyone wants to talk and text on their > phone all day every day. Sometimes we only want something for > emergencies because we're unsociable bastards). Already got a pager? ;-) (Hmm, since pagers are now a niche market for emergency services like SES and sysadmins, they're probably MORE expensive...)

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[Fwd: Humanity+ - Future Science and Technology - 5-6 May 2012 - Melbourne]
by lev.lafayette＠isocracy.org 22 Mar '12

22 Mar '12

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