28 May
2012
28 May
'12
5:24 a.m.
Hi All,
Wondering if any LibreOffice wizards out there...
Have copied and pasted part of a web page (text and pictures) into a
LibreOffice Writer document.
After saving and reopening the document, I note that the pictures will
NOT appear, unless I am on-line. They need to be downloaded from the
net =each= time I access the document.
How can I overcome that?
Have tried right-click and paste, as well as Edit > Past Special > HTML.
Am I not exercising some option in the Save As command?
Should I tweak some setting in the Tools > Options?
Note: I'm saving in MS Word 97...2003 format, and set my default that way.
Thanks very much,
Carl Turney
Melbourne
28 May
28 May
5:28 a.m.
Carl Turney <carl(a)boms.com.au> wrote:
Have copied and pasted part of a web page (text and
pictures) into a
LibreOffice Writer document.
After saving and reopening the document, I note that the pictures will
NOT appear, unless I am on-line. They need to be downloaded from the
net =each= time I access the document.
That's presumably because it's saving the links in the document rather than
downloading the images and embedding them in the document.
I don't know how to fix this - I generally don't use LibreOffice except as a
back-end for running file format conversions from the shell.
5:40 a.m.
New subject: Copying part of web page into LibreOffice Writer document
On Mon, 28 May 2012 03:24:48 pm Carl Turney wrote:
Have copied and pasted part of a web page (text and
pictures) into a
LibreOffice Writer document.
After saving and reopening the document, I note that the pictures will
NOT appear, unless I am on-line. They need to be downloaded from the
net =each= time I access the document.
The browser is working as expected, saving the currently selected object
(typically the HTML document), and not any other documents on the page. There
is no simple way to get around this by using just your browser, other than
downloading each item manually.
To begin with Save-As wouldn't know which object to ignore and which to
download. it may also slow your connection if the page were to have a lot of
large file links or other resources so it's reasonable for only the selected
object to be downloaded - worse if you only need one object, say the HTML
source. Save-As authors are also saving themselves potential issues if third
party linked content is downloaded where permission is not otherwise granted.
LibreOffice is working as I would expect also - after all it doesn't know
whether or not you actually meant to embed content instead of linking to it.
I daresay there's no easy way to go around it. You may need to try right-
clicking on each image on the website, downloading it, and doing an Import
into your LibreOffice document.
6:39 a.m.
Mark Johnson <mark(a)chronopia.net> wrote:
I daresay there's no easy way to go around it.
You may need to try right-
clicking on each image on the website, downloading it, and doing an Import
into your LibreOffice document.
If you use wget to download the Web page, then LibreOffice to convert it to
ODF, does it still link to the images or are they embedded in the ODF document
then?
7:04 a.m.
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 04:39:45 pm Jason White wrote:
Mark Johnson <mark(a)chronopia.net> wrote:
Firstly you need to make sure wget will only get the appopriate content.
They will also still be links but you will already have the images and other
content to Import into the document and replace or remove the links.
I daresay there's no easy way to go around
it. You may need to try
right- clicking on each image on the website, downloading it, and doing
an Import into your LibreOffice document.
If you use wget to download the Web page, then LibreOffice to convert it to
ODF, does it still link to the images or are they embedded in the ODF
document then?
7:12 a.m.
Mark Johnson <mark(a)chronopia.net> wrote:
They will also still be links but you will already
have the images and other
content to Import into the document and replace or remove the links.
Relevant thread here:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg09563.html
9:14 p.m.
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Hi All,
SOLVED
Thanks to Mark Johnson for that link (below) to the LibreOffice site.
It gives a good solution.
Basically, I simply copy and paste any or all of a web page from my
browser into a LibreOffice document.
Then, in LibreOffice, I choose Edit > Links > Break Link for each link
in the document.
Finally, I save the document in whatever format desired.
I've tested it, by re-loading the document while off-line, and it works
great. (Faster, too.)
This is excellent, as I keep finding that "the best" (for me) web pages
often disappear from the net, and I like having a local copy.
Cheers,
Carl Turney
On 28/05/12 17:12, Jason White wrote:
Mark Johnson<mark(a)chronopia.net> wrote:
They will also still be links but you will
already have the images and other
content to Import into the document and replace or remove the links.
Relevant thread here:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg09563.html
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10:25 p.m.
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On Tue, 29 May 2012, Carl Turney <carl(a)boms.com.au> wrote:
This is excellent, as I keep finding that "the
best" (for me) web pages
often disappear from the net, and I like having a local copy.
If what you want is a local copy of a web site then why not just use "wget -
r"? From memory that doesn't fix up href's, but that can be done with sed.
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10:39 p.m.
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Hi,
I often like to edit out stuff (e.g. ads etc.) from the page.
Cheers,
Carl
On 29/05/12 08:25, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012, Carl
Turney<carl(a)boms.com.au> wrote:
This is excellent, as I keep finding that
"the best" (for me) web pages
often disappear from the net, and I like having a local copy.
If what you want is a local copy of a web site then why not just use "wget -
r"? From memory that doesn't fix up href's, but that can be done with sed.
29 May
29 May
1:45 a.m.
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On Tue, 29 May 2012, Carl Turney <carl(a)boms.com.au> wrote:
I often like to edit out stuff (e.g. ads etc.) from
the page.
There is nothing preventing you from editing that from the copy that wget
provides.
You can edit it with your favourite text editor (vi, emacs, etc) as HTML files
are text.
You can edit it with one of the many web editing programs, I don't use such
programs but I'm sure someone here can recommend a good one.
For common types of advert (of which Google Adsense is the best example) there
are usually only a few ways of formatting them. It shouldn't be difficult to
write a little Perl program that goes through the output of "wget -r" and then
removes all Adsense codes. Such a program wouldn't necessarily even need to
be able to properly parse HTML, it could just look for blocks of Adsense
codes. Even if you didn't make it smart enough to handle line-breaks in
unexpected places it would catch more than 90% of all Adsense adverts.
Someone has probably already written such a program, Google might find it.
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2:44 a.m.
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Hi,
There is nothing preventing you from editing that from
the copy that wget
provides.
I'm keeping such info only for personal reference, and prefer Word docs,
so no need to keep them in HTML format.
You can edit it with your favourite text editor (vi,
emacs, etc) as HTML files
are text.
I remember being pretty good at those editors, long ago and far away.
Then I got sucked into the world of EDLIN, NotePad, MSWrite, MSWord,
GEdit, etc. So, inevitably, my brain turned to mush and I forgot all
there was about those powerful/flexible terminal-based commands and
utilities.
You can edit it with one of the many web editing
programs, I don't use such
programs but I'm sure someone here can recommend a good one.
I was quite happy with Kompozer for web editing, until one of its
updates started messing up any pages altered, and active support
disappeared.
After =much= searching I finally found SeaMonkey Composer. (I don't use
SeaMonkey for anything else. Too bad Composer isn't available separately.)
Free. Linux compatible. Good switching between WYSIWYG and source code
modes. Lots of features. Currently supported.
It shouldn't be difficult to
write a little Perl program that goes through the output of "wget -r" and then
removes all Adsense codes.
There are many different kinds of items, on most web pages, that are
superfluous to me, so I just copy and paste the "gems" that I am focused on.
Besides, I'm trying very hard NOT to get back into being a computer
techie. Am just doing enough to my system so I can use it as a tool to
achieve non-computing goals.
Cheers,
Carl Turney
Bottom-line Ownership and Management Services
www.boms.com.au
2:52 a.m.
Carl Turney <carl(a)boms.com.au> wrote:
I remember being pretty good at those editors, long
ago and far away.
Then I got sucked into the world of EDLIN, NotePad, MSWrite, MSWord,
GEdit, etc. So, inevitably, my brain turned to mush and I forgot all
there was about those powerful/flexible terminal-based commands and
utilities.
I would find the step backwards from Emacs, Vi, the shell, etc., very painful
and my frustration levels would go straight up.
It would be like going back to preschool after having grown up.
9:52 a.m.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:45:53AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
You can edit it with your favourite text editor (vi,
emacs, etc) as
HTML files are text.
You can edit it with one of the many web editing programs, I don't use
such programs but I'm sure someone here can recommend a good one.
bluefish is a reasonably good GUI HTML/CSS/etc editor if you like that sort of
thing.
(i don't, i prefer vi...but i've occasionally used bluefish and it's OK)
For common types of advert (of which Google Adsense is
the best
example) there are usually only a few ways of formatting them. It
shouldn't be difficult to write a little Perl program that goes
through the output of "wget -r" and then removes all Adsense codes.
[...]
yep.
doing stuff like this manually is crazy when you can automate it with a
shell, sed, awk, perl, python, or whatever script. perl and python even
have very comprehensive libraries for easily parsing, searching, and
manipulating HTML files.
it takes time to write the script, of course, but it's a lot more
interesting (and usefully educational) to do than repetitive manual
editing work and once the script is written, it's:
a) nearly instantaneous to run
b) consistent and predictable in its effects
c) not prone to human error, tiredness, distraction, or just plain
forgetting to do something, etc
craig
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9:44 a.m.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 08:39:52AM +1000, Carl Turney wrote:
I often like to edit out stuff (e.g. ads etc.) from
the page.
you can edit html easily enough with vi. or emacs. even nano if you're
perverse :)
certainly easier than editing it in a word processor like open office.
craig
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9:42 a.m.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 08:25:39AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
If what you want is a local copy of a web site then
why not just use
"wget - r"?
agreed. good solution.
From memory that doesn't fix up href's, but
that can be done with sed.
there are options to make wget convert links (e.g. img src hrefs) to
local/relative urls when mirroring.
from wget --help:
-k, --convert-links make links in downloaded HTML or CSS point to
local files.
more details in the man pages / docs.
craig
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