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Re: Debian 7.0.0 dvd's
by zlinw＠mcmedia.com.au 10 May '13

10 May '13

On Fri, 10 May 2013 11:04:26 Trent W. Buck wrote, >I assume you've already considered and rejected simply installing from >mini (12MB) or netinst (around 100MB), and then installing only what you >need, on demand, via apt's http method? That would be the obvious way >to do it if your installed box has reliable internet access. I have tried it, the problem I found is that the longer I maintained and updated my own package repository the more problems I had with a net install and subsequent local upgrade. A complete new install from the net downloads something like 3 gig of packages, a figure I consider to be to high (I am being very provincial here :-)). I found a complete standard install from my stable repository, copying the package selections by the method in the Debian docs then doing a dist-upgrade to my latest local copy of testing was completely reliable and easily repeatable over all my three systems. I only upgrade testing when a signifcant change takes place, I would be lucky to upgrade it once a year. >If you have a central host that has internet, and airgapped ones a day's >travel away, you could use apt-walkabout to queue requests up over >sneakernet between them. I didn't have much luck with it myself -- I >found it easier to run a debmirror on the internet end, and generate >monthly rsync --only-write-batch binary diffs to post out on DVD. I have no easy way to access interent much better than I can here. There is a internet cafe in town (Note 1) thats quite fast but I found the downloads were not always reliable, downloading something like DVD image was possible but it was not really repeatable, :-(. Note 1: One has to be carefull and keep an eye on the distances one travels living in the "sticks", you can easily end up with a fuel bill thats really unsustainable these days. Lindsay

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Re: Cheaper 3G data (was: Debian 7.0.0 dvd's)
by zlinw＠mcmedia.com.au 09 May '13

09 May '13

On Thu, 09 May 2013 16:05:33 Toby Corkindale said, >If you can get the Optus network out there, why not go with a cheaper >Optus reseller? >Eg. These guys do 15G for a third of that price per month! >(It says 4G, but in the fine print says that outside of the 4G coverage, >it'll just fall back to 3G) Thats for a monthly account, Virgin has 12G monthly accounts for 39$, BUT I do not want a monthly account so one is stuck with what I have (I find it OK to work this way, in life one makes choices to suit ones own values), There are other issues as I do __not__ have any kind of plastic money, everything has to be done by cash or money order. This latter requirement cuts out most current suppliers. Normally the data limit is not really an issue, 12 gig lasting anything from 3 to 6 months. Note: I do not like the net much, only a small percentage such as Linux and a few railway sites are worth anything at all. Lindsay

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apt-get problem
by Daniel Jitnah 09 May '13

09 May '13

Hi all, I am installing wheezy packages on a pc. I have the OS running fine in console. However when I try installing further packages, apt-get says it can't find some packages. I am using mirror.debian.au as repo. and have done apt-get update. When I look at the apt-get install error , I notice its looking for a .... -2.deb version where as the repo has the ...-1.deb version of the same file. How do I fix that? Cheers Daniel.

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Spamassassin default scores
by Russell Coker 07 May '13

07 May '13

How do I discover the default scores for rules in Spamassassin? I've done a quick Google search and grepped the installation and not found any matches. I'm trying to work out why some mail is being rejected on a CentOS 5 system. Thanks for any suggestions. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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fsync performance
by James Harper 07 May '13

07 May '13

If anyone has a few seconds spare, could you please run the following and post the results: dd if=/dev/zero of=test.bin bs=512 count=128 oflag=sync along with the kernel version and arch, filesystem, layers (lvm, md, etc), and underlying hardware? When I do it on a bare 7200RPM sata disk on a modern server running xfs I get 10-15kbytes/second. I've repeated this on 3 other servers on different hardware with similar results, but when I do it on a ~10yo PC with ext3 I get around 500kbytes/second - 50x faster. I suspect it might be the kernel version (3.8 on new server, 2.6 on old pc) and the implementation of O_SYNC in older kernels wrt metadata but I don't have enough data points to form any conclusions... Thanks James

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Korean before the meeting tonight?
by Chris Samuel 07 May '13

07 May '13

Hi folks, sorry for the late notice, busy day.. If anyone is interested I'm meeting Brian and maybe one or two others for Korean at 5:30pm. It's Big Mama's on Swanston St just up from Victoria St, opposite the old CUB brewery site. Say if you are thinking of coming along so I know how big a table to get.. :-) cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC

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My nut-snmp has forgotten how to speak IETF RFC1628!
by Trent W. Buck 07 May '13

07 May '13

Has anyone seen this before? I'm almost 100% certain I tested this nut correctly detected OB LB in the past, but when I happened to look at it today, I see it refusing to work -- apparently because the NUT client knows how to ask for RFC1628 OIDs, but not what to do with the responses. WTF! # /lib/nut/snmp-ups -a GE-EP3000 -DDDDDDDDD Network UPS Tools - Generic SNMP UPS driver 0.47 (2.4.3) 0.000000 debug level is '9' 0.001846 SNMP UPS driver : entering upsdrv_initups() 0.001860 SNMP UPS driver : entering nut_snmp_init(snmp-ups, ups, v1, public) 0.030096 SNMP UPS driver : entering load_mib2nut(ietf) 0.030123 load_mib2nut: trying ietf mib 0.030132 nut_snmp_get(1.3.6.1.2.1.33.1.1.1.0) 0.032006 [GE-EP3000] unhandled ASN 0x5 recieved from 1.3.6.1.2.1.33.1.1.1.0 0.032019 Unknown mibs value: ietf If I leave out mibs=ietf, I get the same, only it tries other MIBs first, and the last line changes to 0.051158 No supported device detected Here's my config, which I'm almost certain worked before. AFAIK nobody has fiddled with the UPS settings, either. Is the problem in nut or in the UPS? (Looks like nut to me.) Has anybody seen this before? A naïve "apt-get --reinstall install nut nut-snmp" didn't help. I'm using version 2.4.3-1ubuntu3.2 on Ubuntu 10.04. /etc/nut# grep ^ * nut.conf:MODE=standalone ups.conf:[GE-EP3000] ups.conf:driver = snmp-ups ups.conf:port = ups ups.conf:mibs = ietf upsd.conf:LISTEN 127.0.0.1 3493 upsd.users:[local_mon] upsd.users: password = UNPRINTABLE upsd.users: upsmon master upsd.users: upsmon.conf:MONITOR GE-EP3000@localhost 1 local_mon UNPRINTABLE master upsmon.conf:POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower upsmon.conf:SHUTDOWNCMD "/sbin/shutdown -h now" upssched.conf:CMDSCRIPT /upssched-cmd

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Re: Fwd: Mail "commentary"
by Petros 06 May '13

06 May '13

Quoting "Lev Lafayette" <lev(a)levlafayette.com> > Read every email once. Either act on it or delete it. > > Act or ignore. Yes, that's true. > Don't store > thinking "Hmm.. this is interesting, I'll get back to that", except in the > case when the storage is the action (e.g., you're writing a book or paper > on the subject). Well, there is sometimes not the right time to look after something en detail, so it has to be later. (And yes, as a newsletter editor I have to collect too). There is also information scattered in several e-mails of a thread. E.g. a cmp for the kid: - one contains date and time - a second a correction - a third one a payment information - a forth one a health form .. They do not have to be in the same thread.. If I would have a pin wall, I could make a "school camp" entry, and the related e-mails are pointed to and the arrows say: "payment info", "date and time" etc. After the camp, there may be another event, and what was the phone number of the camp organiser? Somewhere in the mail.. Folders aren't good enough, I think. I am missing a visual way of help to find things. I will look at http://notmuchmail.org. Thanks Peter

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setterm
by Russell Coker 03 May '13

03 May '13

Is setterm expected to work in recent systems? On the Debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae kernel "setterm -blank poke" doesn't wake the screen up and "setterm -blank 0" doesn't stop it from blanking. This is on a fairly stock system without X installed. It's running systemd and I've run setterm from a ssh login. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Mail "commentary"
by Petros 03 May '13

03 May '13

Hi all, I am getting overwhelmed by mail.. As a club comitee member, a newsletter editor,parent of kids etc. I am getting sh**loads of mails I have problems to process and.. to find things! There are a lot of "Me to!" mails, subjects get "re-used" for other discussions etc. When I'm at "yeah, there was a form someone sent me, I have to fill it and hand it to the school tomorrow", I just vaguely remember who send it, what the subject was etc .. and it is frustrating. Sometimes I wish I have a "pinboard" for "spheres" (school, club, family..) where I can pin mails and give them short description "School camp health check form, has to be handed in 15/5/13") and a link to the original mail. Does something like this exist? Or.. how to you deal with "information overflow"? Regards Peter

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