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Indiegogo updates....
by Andrew McGlashan 22 Nov '14

22 Nov '14

Hi, I chose to support a project and pledged monies on that project. What I want to know is: "Is it normal to get lots of /nothing/ updates, and I mean *LOTS* ?" I'm already sold on the product and the updates don't tell me anything new of any significance. Also, I was surprised that "stretch" goals were being used as a means to up-sell, rather than reward the supporters -- you want a gold one? Okay as an original supporter you can have it for $10 more per unit. The marketing rubbish on an already subscribed campaign is extreme. So much so, that I would consider pulling my support (not sure if I can or not). Thoughts? A.

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From 2pm today, volunteer warehouse ah.. renovation
by David E Payne 22 Nov '14

22 Nov '14

It warms my heart to see a bunch of community minded youngsters planning to paint & redecorate an old warehouse without payment from the owner. https://www.facebook.com/events/358905414271359/ Dav* "This 31 October, it will be time to dress up, show off your best ideas and maybe even scare a few people. You guessed it: it’s the inaugural World Cities Day." http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/sep/02/2014-world-cities-day-challen…

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Re: [luv-talk] The Jolla Tablet
by Peter Ross 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

From: "thelionroars" <thelionroars1337(a)gmail.com> > > For those not familiar with Jolla and Sailfish: http://jolla.com/tablet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS#Privacy Responding to privacy concerns in light of the PRISM spying program that came to light in summer 2013, a company representative said the US National Security Agency (NSA) would have no access to Jolla's servers. "Jolla servers are not in US, so we are not subject to any US rules or regulations regarding disclosing information." I rather work with devices which do not store my private data on servers at all. Regards Peter

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Indiegogo updates....
by Andrew McGlashan 19 Nov '14

19 Nov '14

Hi, I chose to support a project and pledged monies on that project. What I want to know is: "Is it normal to get lots of /nothing/ updates, and I mean *LOTS* ?" I'm already sold on the product and the updates don't tell me anything new of any significance. Also, I was surprised that "stretch" goals were being used as a means to up-sell, rather than reward the supporters -- you want a gold one? Okay as an original supporter you can have it for $10 more per unit. The marketing rubbish on an already subscribed campaign is extreme. So much so, that I would consider pulling my support (not sure if I can or not). Thoughts? A.

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luv mail server back..... it was down for a few at least 3 days...
by Andrew McGlashan 19 Nov '14

19 Nov '14

Hi, What happened to the luv mail server? I just got an email [to the list] that was sent on the 12th November. An email was in my mail server's queue since the 16th (2:05am) -- just got my mail server to process that email. A.

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GST
by Russell Coker 16 Nov '14

16 Nov '14

Tony Abbott wants to increase GST and apply it to more items. The Liberal goal of increasing taxes on poor people is going well. Of course they could reduce the threshold for GST on imports and apply it to all those Kogan phones imported from Hong Kong for example, among other things that would help companies that actually run the businesses in Australia. But even taxing $500 phones would tend to hit the wealthier people and the multinational phone companies instead of poor people and farmers. -- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with K-9 Mail.

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Re: [luv-talk] Opposing marriage equality
by Peter Ross 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

From: "Russell Coker" <russell(a)coker.com.au> > Also it's interesting to note how many "Christians" expect Muslims who > live in > countries such as the US and Australia to disclaim any connection with > terrorists from the middle-east. But you never see Christians disclaiming > the > actions of the FRC. It's rare to even see Christians even denouncing the > WBC. Because it is silly. To ask someone to "denounce" someone elses act is complete nonsense if you talk about large groups which have millions and billions of members. You are not "closely associated" with any particular member or a small fraction you may nothing to do with at all. E.g. the IS has a few ten thousands or so. It you are lucky it is 0.1 % of the Muslim population world wide. BTW: You may interested how many percent of the world-wide sales of weaponry end up in the hand of these. That may give you a bit interesting insight about who is behind what. But apologies for sidetracking. Also people leaving a country and situation are lucky to leave it all behind. E.g. I cannot be bothered to figure out who was spying on me for the Stasi. (A friend asked for his file. It just made him angry.) It is just annoying if the "new situation" claims to be so much superior and has in fact so many dark secrets as well. Just look at the reaction when Bruce Springsteen and David Grohl were singing John Fogerty's (CCR) "Fortunate Son" last night. Fogerty was a drafted soldier in Vietnam.. But it is easier to drone about the man who were fighting for our freedom. E.g. in Gallipoli which is a thousand miles away from British soil and half the Earth from Australia. Unfortunately the majority is still attracted to mindless droning. That's why most politicians are using slogans instead of arguments. So to speak: These days I can (still?) voice my dissent openly. But it does not change a lot. And this mail was much too long in an age were the average attention span is 140 characters;-) Regards Peter ------- “Yeah, some folks inherit star spangled eyes They send you down to war, Lord And when you ask them, “How much should we give?” They only answer, more, more, more. “It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no Senator’s son. It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no fortunate one.” John Fogerty (CCR) 1969

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Opposing marriage equality
by Michael Scott 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

> I assume you're referring to Westboro Baptist "Church". I don't know what > > you are referring to in "FRC". > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council > > Never heard of them > > If so, WBC are crackpots and I don't agree with ANYTHING they say or do. > > They may refer to themselves as "Christians" but they are not, because > they > > do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. They are not followers of > > Christ, ergo not Christians. > > That's what the WBC say about all other Christians... ;) > > Citation please. Goes to show what crackpots they are.

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Opposing marriage equality
by Russell Coker 13 Nov '14

13 Nov '14

http://m.newnownext.com/mia-talerico-five-year-old-star-of-good-luck-charli… This shows the character of those people. -- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with K-9 Mail.

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Re: [luv-talk] kfreebsd dropped as an official release architecture for Debian Jessie
by Peter Ross 11 Nov '14

11 Nov '14

From: "Andrew McGlashan" <andrew.mcglashan(a)affinityvision.com.au> > On 10/11/2014 5:30 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: >> # We discussed kfreebsd at length, but are not satisfied that a >> # release with Jessie will be of sufficient quality. We are dropping >> # it as an official release architecture, though we do hope that the >> # porters will be able to make a simultaneous unofficial release. >> >> So there we go. > > Wow, so the "Lennart Poettering Linux" is the future then, with BTRFS too. > > So sorry about the way things have turned out. Looks like FreeBSD > direct will be the way forward for so many now. Maybe a "saner" way anyway. pkgng has caught up with other package system and is not the pain it was. I do not see good reasons to run a Debian ecosystem on top of a FreeBSD kernel. With the "heart" of the distributions (and systemd is more than init and we do not even now what it is) under a control of a small team which is more or less run by Red Hat, Linux distributions will be as open as.. say OpenSolaris. Anyway, Open Source and GPL is "twisted" quite often in the Linux environment anyway. E.g. look at the Android phones and tablets. The spirit of the GPL was violated so countless times that it is probably not really working as we hoped ca. 20 years ago. So I do not see BSD licensing as a real problem. Regards Peter

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