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Venue change IEEE SSIT: Sun 1 Mar 5pm: Future challenges in technology
by Rodney Brown 27 Feb '15

27 Feb '15

On 26/02/15 14:23, rdbrown(a)pacific.net.au wrote: Change of venue, now 5pm Unitarian Hall 110 Grey Street East Melbourne [Map] <https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Unitarian+Church,+Grey+St,+East+Melbourne…> > Future challenges in technology > Greg Adamson > Ross House, 247 Flinders Lane, Melbourne (Victoria) > 5pm Sunday 1 March 2015 > > Over the past 30 years the technical community has developed an > increasingly sophisticated understanding of the impact of > technology on society. Global climate change, the importance of > humanitarian technologies, technology for development, privacy and > security, and the importance of ethics are all now accepted as part of the > technology challenge. Is our job done? In this talk, Dr Greg Adamson > (University of Melbourne), President of the IEEE’s Society on Social > Implications of Technology, will speak about three important challenges > for the next 20 to 50 years: the future of work; autonomous warfare; and, > human-machine boundaries. > > For more information visit: > Website http://fd2015.scifuture.org > Meetup: > http://www.meetup.com/Science-Technology-and-the-Future/events/220184121/ > FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/futureday/ > > _______________________________________________ > luv-talk mailing list > luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-talk >

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Looking for Joomla Developer
by Dan062 27 Feb '15

27 Feb '15

Hello, Looking for someone with good Joomla experience to take over maintaining a website from another developer. There are also a few performance issues to resolve. Preferably based in Melbourne, but will consider elsewhere in Australia. Please contact me offlist. Cheers Daniel. -- dan062 <dan062(a)yahoo.com.au>

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Freed audio hardware available
by Damien Zammit 25 Feb '15

25 Feb '15

Hi everyone, A few of you may remember the talk I gave late last year on free audio software (at Free Software Melbourne). It was suggested I cross-post this email to a LUV list: I have recently been able to obtain 2x spare Digidesign Mbox 1 USB sound cards, for which I have written a free linux driver. The driver has now been mainlined into the linux kernel 3.19 I would like to share these devices with anyone interested in making music or capturing sound with GNU/Linux. Please send me an email if you are interested in purchasing one of these pretty decent 2-channel sound cards. I have flashed them both with the latest firmware as per www.zamaudio.com/?p=953 so they should work well with Linux 3.19 I am selling them for $50 each. Regards, Damien Zammit _______________________________________________ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-software-… Free Software Melbourne home page: http://www.freesoftware.asn.au/melb/

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Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi
by Petros Listig 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

From: "Steve Roylance" <roylance(a)corplink.com.au> > Still getting use to the new phone, touch screen is awkward and display > occasionally overflows. I have not seen this yet. Anyway, I wanted to contradict myself a bit. The camera was used a bit during the holidays and I took some nice pictures with it, while definitely not world class. It is a $99 phone, after all. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Failure Notice
by Petros Listig 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

Hi David, From: "David E Payne" <spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au> > To: "Peter Ross" <Petros.Listig(a)fdrive.com.au> > Sent: Thursday, 1 January, 2015 2:19:52 AM > > Is this delivery Failure meant to DISCOURAGE spreading such rumours > about ZTE? I am pretty sure that ZTE hijacked the yahoo DNS;-) I leave the notice below to interpret. Was there a luv.asn.au DNS problem recently? To the original subject: >> "... And I love the feeling that Apple and Google (and >> associated darker forces) do not know everything about me. >> >> Which should be a non-negotiable requirement for any >> equipment but .. >> well, we live in times where the indecent is considered >> standard. > Yes it's unlikely the Chinese government would share their information > about you with Apple and Google. (Well, it seems to be a widely held > belief that the government owned ZTE is spying on users of their stuff. > Still, probably better to have the info about you split among rivals who > won't aggregate it.) The ability to _receive_ the information is less likely because I do not have a Chinese account which is syncing data and transfering data from my phone (as Google does from every Android phone - or Apple from every iPhone). The software is open source. It could be that the software was modified (I did not flush it yet and put a self-compiled Firefox OS on it), and there could be off-band communication using the proprietary drivers. >> " Recently I saw a jealous husband monitoring his >> (unfaithful, he suspects) >> wife via "Find a friend" app on an iPhone. " > > I once heard what I believe was a nearby portable, not > mobile, phone on a radio or TV (back when they were likely to be > analog). > The voice was of a wo man saying that if her husband knew he'd > kill her and I don't think she was speaking figuratively! Yes, these people exist, unfortunately. I do not think it matches "my" case. I left it with a remark which started some thinking, hopefully. During my holidays I grabbed "holiday reading" idly from the bookshelf, browsing through books I read decades earlier. One was Kurt Tucholsky's "Gripsholm Castle" written in the early 1930ies. There is a memorable quote about "the good cause": Oh ecstacy of the good and righteous crusades, you laxative of the immoral! With a cold stream of water I extinguished it, while I breathed out. I knew the mechanism of this lust: It's twice as dangerous because it has an ethical foundation; to torment in order to do a good work..., that's a very wide-spread ideal. (Translation by Alfred Wilke) Regards Peter > --- On Thu, 1/1/15, MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com> >> Subject: Failure Notice >> To: spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au >> Received: Thursday, 1 January, 2015, 1:48 AM >> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your >> message to the following address. >> >> <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>: >> No MX or A records for luv.asn.au >> >> --- Below this line is a copy of the message. >> >> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com >> with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 14:25:09 -0000 >> Received: from [98.138.100.113] by >> nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:09 -0000 >> Received: from [98.139.212.151] by >> tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> Received: from [98.139.215.251] by >> tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1064.mail.bf1.yahoo.com >> with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 14:22:06 -0000 >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 128145.35121.bm(a)omp1064.mail.bf1.yahoo.com >> Received: (qmail 44001 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; >> d=yahoo.com.au; s=s1024; t=1420035726; >> bh=6i2atCtUM9nCWjxCHM4CjLwuxlw/IKubThm8r2jf85M=; >> h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; >> b=JPghzTu4Ll4y8YqRugTFW2IO6Q7vTl0ZXn4vyAKdLe8iP95QWjgSEDQEzHXAmoEDzQT/BKRGMQ1s+Ebbbje/iuvpWvqPwav2niFqPtkSLBCEpR8KjMs0VbpARpjTCls4y/dgjUCX2ytgKOs7R4m9CYiy+48bcNeKXeishCuoB10= >> X-YMail-OSG: >> pRgWmZUVM1m6k6UNHmcdFy9EjE16D.v_BjhC68mMDSR.WP_ >> kLiitFx18fVUmJp87nWwYKLTywVlcFSdVn1IK5yKs7VJIhjrlq07ApuG4tTC >> ZCdR6baSk.Yq2Xvb.7ilfiHDU0i.hhCIGRjlO2R5GR62WoReeh6mFcBIsMKR >> Uihje5mITlMzcPZGaaQ_2PRY0cWEjUICXRXFZp.iiHJY5eodWsZP52HuU7nA >> fDvWZeLMntTxxVd4xzpAE5c9TgnRbxiIFey0uuJ8J0yFXjZUd9bfTq9wOAB5 >> B_vd3wwFONBtBKdGoqq14SwMC3pDRCQWanvsOJ97zH_zFYOu_wjPB0fM1VUK >> NBS7o_GsYWzLNUU5.mHHtKBqsjeFZAzqeC2osqvyHS.RMxonvm5ygVw6twpo >> aCqsPad1wHRnXFMtHC_iigzVPrgGvhcbh.IJeWyLUv3CEx2k.EYr2yKGKSB3 >> GQRmrHrKyYAdMI.1XidKTNHzowX8u4lbYoCxKduCHzdHaS4L5i1WONXBwpgR >> ZjGLEr2rTDLaiMeIEnTZEQtMLrB14McqYF90JuF9VrWTyt5NAY6YHhd7CMsQ >> mnIVV_YkaGODptcA- >> Received: from [202.45.117.50] by >> web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 >> 06:22:05 PST >> X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: >> 002.001,T24gVGh1LCAxOC8xMi8xNCwgUGV0ZXIgUm9zcyA8UGV0cm9zLkxpc3RpZ0BmZHJpdmUuY29tLmF1PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KIFN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbbHV2LXRhbGtdIEZpcmVmb3ggT1MgcGhvbmUgYXQgSkIgSGlmaQ0KIFRvOiBsdXYtdGFsa0BsdXYuYXNuLmF1DQogUmVjZWl2ZWQ6IFRodXJzZGF5LCAxOCBEZWNlbWJlciwgMjAxNCwgMTE6MzcgQU0NCiANCg0KU05JUCANCiANCiIuLi4gIEFuZCBJIGxvdmUgdGhlIGZlZWxpbmcgdGhhdCBBcHBsZSBhbmQgR29vZ2xlIChhbmQgYXNzb2NpYXRlZA0KIGRhcmtlcg0BMAEBAQE- >> X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/903 >> YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.740 >> Message-ID: <1420035725.99905.YahooMailBasic(a)web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 06:22:05 -0800 >> From: David E Payne <spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi >> To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au >> In-Reply-To: <32dfc7b80086f5d33535276bce1caa30.squirrel(a)mailbox.alumni.tu-berlin.de> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> On Thu, 18/12/14, Peter Ross <Petros.Listig(a)fdrive.com.au> >> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi >> To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au >> Received: Thursday, 18 December, 2014, 11:37 AM >> =20 >>

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Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi
by dan062＠yahoo.com.au 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

>From ZTE au website, JB HiFi selling Firefox OS phones. (http://www.zte.com.au/devices/Firefox_OpenC.htm) Any one seen them and any experience? Daniel. -- dan062(a)yahoo.com.au <dan062(a)yahoo.com.au>

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

Hi, Thanks Sam, On 2/01/2015 10:19 AM, Sam Varghese wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 03:57:51AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it >> delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new >> ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to >> worry about that. >> >> Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. > > <snip> > > I'm not sure why you had to jump through so many hoops. My son bought a OnePlus > One [1] from a Chinese outlet [2] and paid with an Australian-issued credit card. It > took about five weeks to arrive and the cost, including shipping, was $415.00. There were a number of reasons for solving this problem the way I did; one being that OnePlus don't deliver directly to AU and two, the new ShopMate service had just launched and I wanted to try it and three .... I didn't have (and still don't) any first hand experience with other suppliers for this situation and therefore trust was an issue [read consideration]. I know that people can buy OnePlus One's via eBay too, but people also get burned off eBay -- even if PayPal helps [and I understand it can go both ways here] them sort out some issues, it can be a huge hassle if things go wrong. > It would be relevant to mention one thing here - if any phones (indeed anything > containing a battery) need to be returned because they are defective, then you > are forced to send it back through a company called Pack And Send because > neither Australia Post nor any courier company will accept them. And then > the company will usually ask you to pay the customs duty for collecting the > device at their end. This could well end up making the device as costly as it is in > Australia. Okay, but AU didn't have any trouble shipping my phone from US to AU regardless of it having a non-removable LiPo battery in it. Cheers A.

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Russell Coker 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

On Fri, 2 Jan 2015, Sam Varghese <sam(a)gnubies.com> wrote: > It would be relevant to mention one thing here - if any phones (indeed > anything containing a battery) need to be returned because they are > defective, then you are forced to send it back through a company called > Pack And Send because neither Australia Post nor any courier company will > accept them. And then Are you talking about delivery within Australia or to another country? https://www.temando.com/ When my wife's Nexus 5 broke Temando collected it. Unless something has changed in the last 6 months Pack and Send aren't the only one to do that. Note that I can't recommend Temando as they seem to have a problem with knocking on doors. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

On 2/01/2015 10:19 AM, Sam Varghese wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 03:57:51AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it >> delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new >> ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to >> worry about that. >> >> >> Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. > > <snip> > > I'm not sure why you had to jump through so many hoops. My son bought a OnePlus > One [1] from a Chinese outlet [2] and paid with an Australian-issued credit card. It > took about five weeks to arrive and the cost, including shipping, was $415.00. btw I did use an AU credit card, it was still a prepaid one though. Okay, how can you buy from the US store of NewEgg ? They won't accept a PayPal address if it is not US, then if you make a "gift" address, then they still want a US phone number -- AU PayPal site won't let you have an address OR phone number that is not in AU (more pain). Paying with a prepaid AU credit card fails with NewEgg NewEgg is extremely painful. One item they had in the US store was $US50 (approx), then there was a coupon to bring it down to $US30 (approx). The EXACT same item on their "global" AU site is $AUD122 and converted $US99. If I could have bought the item at $US30 and gotten it with other goods, then it would have been great to send it to the US address I have with ShopMate ... but NewEgg cannot or will not accept payment with my AU prepaid credit card. So much pain. :( A.

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OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

Hi, I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to worry about that. Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. My phone arrived a little slower than expected, but there were no troubles doing it this way. Purchased on the 21st November, 2014 -- delivered to US address on the 28th November and finally delivered to AU on the 15th December after seeing an expected time frame of 4th to 9th December. OnePlus people have now given me some limited time-frame invitations, they will expire in around 5 days. Product choice is specific to the exact same version that I purchased: "One - 64 GB Sandstone Black" At the time,of purchase, I paid around $AUD438 (after conversion) using PayPal and a prepaid credit card. The price is $US349 on their website plus a shipping and handling charge of $US14.34 for a total of $US363.34. Delivery by ShopMate was discounted (promo) and cost me $AUD40.23. I've got a US power adapter with the phone, but it charges with standard USB cables. Here are the phone details: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php NB: A new model is "rumoured", but the specs aren't much improved and actual details at gsmarena may not be correct for the new device. The main differences seem to be the inclusion of an FM radio and newer CPU/GPU ... you can see the differences here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6327&idPhone2=6902 Okay, now of those still with me, please let me know if you want an invite -- I'm not sure how I'll give them out, most importantly, I don't want them to expire; so let me know your interest. Cheers AndrewM

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