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straight white guys getting emotional
by Russell Coker 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2014/12/26/concern-for-equality-linked- to-logic-not-emotion/ The URL says it all. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] readability (was Re: torrent software)
by Rohan McLeod 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Mark Trickett wrote: > Hello Rohan, > > On Sun, 2015-04-12 at 20:51 +1000, Rohan McLeod wrote: >> Craig Sanders wrote: >>> Rohan, just a request but would you mind formatting your paragraphs >>> in a readable manner? >>> Craig ;I will give some thought to your suggestion, >>> but somehow I doubt things will change much. > .............snip > > I see similar "issues" with your postings as does Craig. I suspect that > the effects we see are related to the "editor" component settings. I do > not use "Seamonkey", and do not know whether there is an internal > editor, or whether you have set up an external editor. I suspect that > changing the "window" width while replying may have something to do with > what we see. There may also be a setting for where to set word wrap to > happen,..............snip SeaMonkey-email (the editor) is integral to the browser. There seem to be two separate issues here 1/ the email is not appearing as I intended it to appear 2/ possibly the way I intend it to appear; is not as some might wish it. An explanation for 2/; might go as follows: I notice that I often have battles with my word processor; which used to be Libre-write but now is mostly Abiword. I suspect that my ' paragraph formatting ' style is somewhat eccentric; and at odds with convention and what the developer had in mind. In particular: - it breaks sentences where I don't want them broken - it stops me starting sentences on a new line How can I put it ?; unconventional layout others unhappy; conventional layout me unhappy; better others unhappy ! Regarding 1/ which is also happening; I am going to try to stick to full screen editing and will try sending it to myself first; to see what scrambling is occuring ........................................................................... Well I have just recieved back this email; it seems pretty much as I intended except the quoted stuff is now blue; and the delimiter symbol has changed from | to > regards Rohan McLeod

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Re: [luv-talk] readability (was Re: torrent software)
by Rick Moen 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Craig Sanders wrote: > Rohan, just a request but would you mind formatting your paragraphs > in a readable manner? I'm a pedant and an extremely evil, very annoying person who probably twists his waxed moustache, and in general wishes to emulate Doctor Evil. That background fact having been established, I would like to offer for public benefit a useful English-language distinction: Readable: Easy, interesting and enjoyable to read Legible: Presented in a written physical format that facilitates reading. Text suffering from poor legibility can be fixed through better typography, or in some cases turning on a reading lamp. Text suffering from poor readability can be fixed by rewriting it to make the semantic content more easy to discern. Yr. welcome.

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Re: [luv-talk] readability (was Re: torrent software)
by Peter Ross 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Hi all, From: "Craig Sanders" <cas(a)taz.net.au> > now, you're entitled to your opinion - everyone is entitled to be wrong > if they please. Recently I read an article about "Why Do Many Reasonable People Doubt Science?" in the National Geographic. I just found it online: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/03/science-doubters/achenbach-text Have fun while reading Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] readability (was Re: torrent software)
by Craig Sanders 12 Apr '15

12 Apr '15

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 08:51:12PM +1000, Rohan McLeod wrote: > Craig ;I will give some thought to your suggestion, > but somehow I doubt things will change much. fair enough. they're your words, you can write them however you like....but you might find that more people will bother to read them (and thus be worth the bother of writing in the first place) if you format them for readability. > Your email above is very clear and well formatted; that's because i make the small effort to edit my messages and reformat them with par until they're readable. > but often discussions rapidly become, quite visually scrambled; only if nobody bothers to edit their replies. > But if there is something you particularly want to read; perhaps I > could attach it as a pdf ? PDF? now there's no need to be rude, just tell me to FOAD if you feel that strongly about it :) craig -- craig sanders <cas(a)taz.net.au>

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Libertarianism (was Re: torrent software)
by Lev Lafayette 11 Apr '15

11 Apr '15

Whoops. In error I responded to Michael alone rather than the list.. ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Libertarianism (was Re: [luv-talk] torrent software) From: "Lev Lafayette" <lev(a)levlafayette.com> Date: Fri, April 10, 2015 9:56 am To: "Michael Verrenkamp" <jabjabs(a)fastmail.com.au> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, April 9, 2015 8:43 pm, Michael Verrenkamp wrote: > " Not sure you can be "a bit" of a libertarian. Either you are, or you >> aren't. If you support some regulation, then you're probably not a >> libertarian. Essentially, what you're saying is that you only like the >> laws that you like. " >> > > Sounds like me :P I like the broad concept of libertarians but I don't > actually think it would be a great overall system. We should limit > governments powers but libertarians can go a little too far at times. I > also could be talking total crap right now. Of course one of the big political changes from the 1970s was the ability of neoliberals to co-opt the word 'libertarian' which historically, and on a continuing basis, was associated with anarcho-socialists. a) The first person to identify as a libertarian in the political sense was Joseph Dejacque, an anarcho-communist and signatory to the First International. b) The first periodical to identify with libertarian politics was "Le Libertaire, Journal du Mouvement social" which was a hot-bed of anarchist, socialist and communist thought. c) To this day even in the United States, the first political organisation to use the named is the Libertarian Book Club, which distributes anarcho-syndalist and council communist texts. d) In the UK, the avowedly socialist Common Wealth Party had the journal; "The Libertarian" and so it goes on. The Anarchist FAQ provides an interesting combination. http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQ-PDF >From the FAQ While the Greek words anarchos and anarchia are often taken to mean "having no government" or "being without a government," as can be seen, the strict, original meaning of anarchism was not simply "no government." "An-archy" means "without a ruler," or more generally, "without authority," and it is in this sense that anarchists have continually used the word. For example, we find Kropotkin arguing that anarchism "attacks not only capital, but also the main sources of the power of capitalism: law, authority, and the State." [Op. Cit., p. 150] For anarchists, anarchy means "not necessarily absence of order, as is generally supposed, but an absence of rule." ... In such a [anarchist] society the whole conception of government would change. The economic structure would come to replace the traditional government apparatus. The need for government in the tradition sense would disappear, to be replaced by the planning and administration of trade and industry. The government of people would be replaced by the administration of things. There would be no need for democracy. The administrators would be appointed on the basis of their professional competence. Considering definitions from the American Heritage Dictionary, we find: LIBERTARIAN: one who believes in freedom of action and thought; one who believes in free will. SOCIALISM: a social system in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. Just taking those two first definitions and fusing them yields: LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM: a social system which believes in freedom of action and thought and free will, in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. However, due to the creation of the Libertarian Party in the USA, many people now consider the idea of "libertarian socialism" to be a contradiction in terms. Indeed, many "Libertarians" think anarchists are just attempting to associate the "anti-libertarian" ideas of "socialism" (as Libertarians conceive it) with Libertarian ideology in order to make those "socialist" ideas more "acceptable" -- in other words, trying to steal the "libertarian" label from its rightful possessors. Nothing could be further from the truth. Anarchists have been using the term "libertarian" to describe themselves and their ideas since the 1850's. According to anarchist historian Max Nettlau, the revolutionary anarchist Joseph Dejacque published Le Libertaire, Journal du Mouvement Social in New York between 1858 and 1861 while the use of the term "libertarian communism" dates from November, 1880 when a French anarchist congress adopted it. [Max Nettlau, A Short History of Anarchism, p. 75 and p. 145] The use of the term "Libertarian" by anarchists became more popular from the 1890s onward after it was used in France in an attempt to get round anti-anarchist laws and to avoid the negative associations of the word "anarchy" in the popular mind (Sebastien Faure and Louise Michel published the paper Le Libertaire -- The Libertarian -- in France in 1895, for example). Since then, particularly outside America, it has always been associated with anarchist ideas and movements. Taking a more recent example, in the USA, anarchists organised "The Libertarian League" in July 1954, which had staunch anarcho-syndicalist principles and lasted until 1965. The US-based "Libertarian" Party, on the other hand has only existed since the early 1970's, well over 100 years after anarchists first used the term to describe their political ideas (and 90 years after the expression "libertarian communism" was first adopted). It is that party, not the anarchists, who have "stolen" the word. Later, in Section B, we will discuss why the idea of a "libertarian" capitalism (as desired by the Libertarian Party) is a contradiction in terms. Hope this helps, -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

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Suspect disk control
by Keith Bainbridge 10 Apr '15

10 Apr '15

Good afternoon all Sorry to ask here, but I can't think how to structure a web search. On my desktop PC after running for say 15 minutes I hear a click, and the disk activity lights up solid for 2/3 seconds. PC also becomes unresponsive. This will repeat every 10/15 minutes. I have tried swapping the disk on to a different SATA output, without any change. I know it is getting old, but it has had little use most of its life. Any suggestions of cause and fix please. Keith Bainbridge Keithrbaugroups(a)gmail.com

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Kogan 4K monitor
by Russell Coker 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-28-ultra-hd-4k-led-monitor/ The price is good but would the monitor be any good? Apparently it's a PITA to get a 4K monitor going but this is a mostly solved problem (according to an LCA2015 lecture). Of course that means it probably won't work on Debian/Wheezy etc, but anyone who's happy to run Debian/Unstable, Rawhide, etc and get a new video card should be able to get this going. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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IEEE VIC: Lilypad Arduino @Monash Thu 17:00, Forum on the Defense Controls Act @Melbourne Fri 16:15
by Rodney Brown 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

These may interest LUV members https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/ieee-wie-wearable-electronics-workshop-usin… Wearable Electronics Workshop using the Lilypad Arduino Microcontrollers, organized by IEEE Women in Engineering Victorian affinity group. This workshop is aimed at beginners. ... Thu 9 Apr 17:00-20:00 Monash University, Clayton Campus *The Computer Society Chapter of IEEE Victorian Section and the Society on Social Implications of Technology (SSIT) present:* *The Future of Science & Technology Research under Defence Controls: A Forum on DTCB 2015* */Presented By :/// /Dr Greg Adamson (IEEE SSIT): Introduction// Dr Kevin Korb (Monash): An Overview of DTCA// Dr Carlo Kopp (Monash): An Overview of DSGL// Kris Browne (Dept of Industry): The Chief Scientist’s Steering Group// Tina Mathewson (Defence Explort Controls Organization): DTCA 2012 & 2015// Dr Kevin Korb (Monash): Response to DTCB (Senate submission) // Simon Wolfe (Blueprint for Free Speech): Response to DTCB (Senate submission)/ /Date :/Friday April 10, 2015 /Time : /4:15pm - 5:45pm (Panel Discussion and Audience Participation) /Location :/Alan Gilbert Building G21 (Theater 1), University of Melbourne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ /Forum Abstract:/// /This forum will first briefly introduce the Defence Trade Controls Act and the amendments newly proposed by Chief Scientist Ian Chubb's Steering Group (DTCB 2015) and how they will impact science and technology research. Speakers representing a variety of viewpoints will respond, followed by a discussion open to the audience./* ... * This is a free event open to the public.*

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External USB drive failing
by Daniel Jitnah 07 Apr '15

07 Apr '15

Hello all, I have a 1TB usb external drive used mostly for backup, and occasionally to run virtual machines stored on it. It is a Lacie Porche model of roughly 3-4 yrs and it has a Hitachi disk drive in it. It has 5 partitions of ~200gGb each. HDSentinel says it has been powered on for 212 days... which could be right, as it not on everyday, and says it is at 100% health status. Since a few days it is consistently remounting in read-only mode when a large file is copied onto it (1gb+ files), meaning the copy fails. Small files do not seem to cause any problem. A CD image iso copies ok. Running fsck shows no errors. But badblocks shows plenty of bad blocks. So far all of the bad blocks seem to be on a single partition with reiserfs. (admittedly I have not checked the disk completely - just that the first 30% of the other partitions (ext4) show no bad blocks, where as the reiserfs one shows badblocks very early in the check. Badblocks checks take a long time - btw, I don't remember why this one partition is reiserfs, and others ext4?) IMHO 212 days is not a lot! Could there be other reasons than "really badblocks" thats causing this problem? I would think that a badblock check is filesystem independent. OR is there any reason why a partition with reiserfs would be particularly prone to developing badblocks? Also any recommendation for a good 1 Tb USB external drive (powered is fine, it does not have to be portable). Cheers Daniel. PS: Lev if you read this, as I recall you bought a similar external drive shortly after I bought mine. Is yours still running good?

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