I have a Thinkpad carbon X3 2015 model, which I am pretty happy with.
As of several days ago, it no longer sleeps when I close the lid with
Gnome. The trigger was moving to Brisbane, in Melbourne it was fine. Hasn't
come good since moving back to Melbourne however.
If I manually type in "sudo systemctl start systemd-suspend" then it goes
to sleep fine. So I suspect this isn't the typical issue of suspend not
working, it is more like suspend isn't even getting triggered.
Looking at /var/log/auth.log I see events being generated by systemd-login
for "Lid closed" and "Lid opened" - how do I debug why these aren't getting
turned into sleep events?
It is possible this problem come about as a result of upgrading from a 4.0
kernel to a 4.1 kernel, however I couldn't get get reproducible results
under 4.0. As in if I make a random change to the system, it can start
working and after a reboot it stops working.
Peter, you've made a number of posts recently about your perception of
problems in Linux when compared to BSD. I think that it would be useful for
the LUV membership if you could run a training session about BSD at the
Beginner SIG. Maybe help people through installation on laptops that they
bring in, maybe do an installation on desktop machines there (Lev can we do
this?), and do VM images.
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 22:21:53
Mark Trickett <marktrickett(a)gmail.com> said,
>Thank you for this response. It contains most of what I will need when I
>do an install of Jessie. One query, what window managers have you tried
>without systemd, and what you find particularly good or bad. For myself,
>I find the older desktop metaphor more effective and productive.
I am running testing, it was "upgraded" to systemd without my knowledge
sometime back. Systemd was removed and replaced with sysv with a procedure.
identical to what Rick has writen. Note, at the time I did not know that
"better" init systems exist. I will have to give some of them a look.
Anyway from what I have read I think you will find most windowmanagers
other than Gnome will be OK. I run FVWM, the standard config is ___VERY___
basic but there are much better configs around. With FVWM there is almost
nothing you cannot do with it, as long as one has time to work through the
(text based) config files, not for the faint of heart, but one can get it
to do exactly what one wants.
Using Linux since mid 1993,
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:40:56
Rick Moen said,
>Quoting Mark Trickett (marktrickett(a)gmail.com):
>> I noted that it is possible to put openrc on Debian 8. I shall need to
>> do a bit of research. Some notes from you and/or Rick Moen would be very
>apt-get install openrc
>apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd
>Note that said command will remove..............
Lots of good stuff omitted
Much thanks for this its most apreciated, it actually closely matchs
another doc I found on the net about replacing systemd in debian but in
Ricks version has vastly more info on other packages involved.
Just a minor point, if required this writer would have no hesitation in
looking at recompiling bsdutils and util-linux if it was required. I
personally think Debian is insane in using systemd its entirely anti unix.
Using Linux for 22 years (how time flies),
Free Software Melbourne is holding a very special workshop and we want to
invite the members of Linux Users Victoria to join in.
We're going to show people how they can get involved in contributing to
free software projects. A lot of people say they want to contribute, but
they don't really know how to get started. What they could really do, how
they could be useful. So we decided we'd do something about it. Get them
started. Get them over the line.
We'd be very grateful if you could forward this invite on to your members.
We think there are likely people among them who would be interested.
All the details for the event, and the place to register and pay ($25 to
cover venue costs and lunch etc.) can be found at
Have a great time. And we hope to see some of your there.
Vice President, Free Software Melbourne.
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 06:35:10PM +1000, ed chan wrote:
> I tried this change on my eee701 pc which I used as a gateway machine at
my 701 died a few months ago...i was using it as a wireless AP.
> home and it works ( closing the lid does not suspend the netbook. ). It was
> an annoying problem that started once I installed Ubuntu 14.04 server on
> the device.
> Now it works.
> Thank you very much.
You're welcome, i'm glad somebody found the info useful.
btw, don't let an upgrade replace logind.conf or it will go
back to the default.
i forgot oncw and allowed logind.conf to be replaced while running an
apt-get dist-upgrade over ssh and it immediately shutdown (suspended)
the laptop again.
craig sanders <cas(a)taz.net.au>
You rail against Telstra, but where I am, there is zero choice. For
mobile coverage, there are a few Telstra black spots where Optus has
coverage, but far more of the reverse. I am cursing Telstra as there is
ADSL either side of me, by something like four kilometers at the
closest. My copper pair is about 1,000 meters to the base of a mobile
phone tower, where there is ISDN equipment, but not ADSL. It used to be
a very poor quality 11 plus kilometers to the nearest exchange, but now
straight to fiber at the base of the mobile phone tower.
Add to that that NBNCo is not due to pass here for quite some time, and
that my mobile looses signal every now and then, sometimes when dry, not
just wet foliage. When NBNCo take over the copper network, Telstra/Big
Pond will no longer do dial up, and I will be forced to go 3G (that is
the best the tower will support) on Big Pond. At least that way over
contract gigabytes will be speed shaped, rather than an extra ten
dollars for each over plan gigabyte that is the Telstra plan.
Think about what it will take to get a DVD .ISO, currently not possible
on my dial up. I am fortunate that I can visit a local friend with ADSL
now and then for some updates and .ISO images. Think about what it would
be like trying to cope with the Windows Updates pushed out without
I do not think much of Telstra, but that the other majors are even
Taking an on topic point, have you ever heard of being able to activate
a USB modem under Linux? I gather many, even most, can be used, after
activation, but the activation requires Windows, with a vague nod to
Apple. I have even seen trouble, quite a few years back, with a Windows
Netbook, one of the early ones that was also available with Linux. It
belonged to a German national who brought it with him, and he had
enormous trouble getting activation of anything. He even grabbed an
update or two on a USB stick, and still did not work.
As to reading any replies, that depends on the status of Telstra's modem
pool, whether they answer, and whether they will let me log in, then
whether the networking is functional. I suspect that there may be a
problem with resetting and being ready when a Windows user just drops
the line rather than logging out. However I have had it cut me off well
under the ten hours that any one session may run up to, the dropping the
connection happening from their end. They appear to not be looking after
in this last time window before dropping the service.
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 07:26:20
Andrew McGlashan said,
Linz's comment first, hope do not mind me saying this................
>If Telstra wasn't so hell bent on milking every consumer [of any type]
>for as much as they can and if they cared about keeping our network up
>to world standards without super premium pricing, well .. I might be
>able to support them. Whilst they continue to extort far too much for
>their product, they don't deserve ANY support and will remain the last
>bastion of hope for those unfortunate enough to actually need to rely
You appear not have understood what Mark was saying, in most rural Australia
one simply has no choice, you have Telstra or nothing. As far as I am
concerned these other Telco's you are defending are as guilty of gouging
the public as Telstra, as they will ____ONLY____ provide services where
they can get a large return on as small an outlay as possible. Telstra's
performance is poor, but at last its there you mostly cannot get support
from anyone else.
I am somewhat luckier than Mark as my rural house is just below a hill that
has both Telstra and another carriers (Optus) mobile towers on it so I can
get a half decent although from in town standards very expensive fast
internet (I use Virgin), even then its NOT reliable. The nearest town
around 5 kilometres away has both ASDL and fixed radio, neither of these
will reach me. NBN will not be availible at my location for at least
another couple of years and then it will be via satelite.
Note: I am not complaining just making a point. services will
_____ALWAYS______ be poorer in rural areas, something most town and city
folk do not always understand, one lives in such an area to get a quite
I am unable to get my Telstra adsl working. I'm trying to upgrade from
dial-up and I thought I did a lot of research, but I have failed to get
anywhere with the adsl and I need help.
The adsl unit is a Technicolor modem/router TG799vac.
I hooked it up and the lights flashed but the Status and Internet lights
I tried to get into the unit with firefox and midori but both failed to
reach the modem's address http://10.0.0.138 which is the address on the
unit. I am running network.service and it's up. The config for my
ethernet connection which goes into the ethernet socket on the modem is:
[ben@til network-scripts]$ cat ifcfg-enp63s0
This config was part of my home network and I didn't change it before I
plugged everything in and powered up.
I tried to make a route to the modem with:
#route add default gw 10.0.0.138
but I get "network is unreachable" but 'systemctl -a |grep network'
shows network service loaded and active.
So, I'm stuck. In my research before hand I came across many posts
saying: "just plug it in, use the browser to configure it
and off you go." I did get comfort from that, but my experience is of
failure. What can I do to get this modem working?
My distro is fedora 22 and I don't run a desktop, just a window manager
and am used to doing most things on the command line.