September 2011 - luv-main

Re: [luv-main] You have been unsubscribed from the luv-main mailing list
by Rohan McLeod 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

luv-main-bounces(a)lists.luv.asn.au wrote: >Alright why ?; regards Rohan McLeod

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Re: [luv-main] backkuppc and ZFS (was Re: Back ups)
by Craig Sanders 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 01:20:19PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Regarding ZFS, it is my impression that all of the people who > understand the internals of the file system and its implementation > are Sun/Solaris developers, some of whom may have left after the > acquisition by Oracle. I don't know what situation this creates as to > the availability of expertise (at the level of understanding the code > well enough to debug it) for projects porting it to BSD and Linux. many of them now work on the same code at Joyent or Nexenta and similar places. And it looks like they, through the Illumos community, will end up forking OpenSolaris (incl. ZFS and other solaris goodies) by default if Oracle doesn't start actively participating. LLNL, who are working on the zfsonlinux port, are also involved in the Illumos-centred ZFS development. Disclaimer: nothing past my first paragraph is "fact". it's just my 2c summary/interpretation of various things i've read on various web sites and mailing list archives. craig -- craig sanders <cas(a)taz.net.au> BOFH excuse #148: Insert coin for new game

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list-id issue -- we have a change in list naming?
by Andrew McGlashan 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Hi, I had anew message from the list (James Harper), but it didn't get to the right folders via my rules in my .forward -- this seems to be due to the List-Id head being different, possibly running over two lines? List-Id: "Main LUV community and support mailing list." <luv-main.lists.luv.asn.au> This from my .forward $h_List-Id: matches "luv-main.luv.asn.au" Hmm, okay it might not be multi-line issue, but still a change? luv-main.luv.asn.au luv-main.lists.luv.asn.au Are other lists changing this way? Was this an error? -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan

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Re: [luv-main] list-id issue -- we have a change in list naming?
by peren＠melbpc.org.au 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Can you guys stop these excess LUV emails.. ? I was on the LUV list and got about 3-4 emails per week... OK.. Now its suddenly about 40 per day... Seems like something has gone astray with the email system... thanks Peter ----------------- > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011, Erik Christiansen <dvalin(a)internode.on.net> wrote: > > As craig suggested, it'd be very nifty, though, if we could lose the > > "[luv-main]" pollution in the Subject header. The plethora of list > > headers on which to filter, make it entirely redundant. > > Also mangling the subject breaks DKIM in almost all cases as the Subject is > signed in all typical configurations. Appending a footer doesn't necessarily > break things as the signer can use the l= flag. > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > _______________________________________________ > luv-main mailing list > luv-main(a)lists.luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main Message sent using MelbPC WebMail Server

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email issues
by Andrew Greig 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

I have received 47 messages from luv-main in my main account address - no problem. But I have received the same messages in my secondary address as well - problem. This is new behaviour. Not grumpy, just informative. I am grateful for all of the work that goes into keeping us informed. Andrew Greig

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Re: [luv-main] backkuppc and ZFS and now memlockd too (was Re: Back ups)
by Peter Ross 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Quoting "Chris Samuel" <chris(a)csamuel.org>: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:32:43 AM Peter Ross wrote: > >> Quoting "Andrew McGlashan" <andrew.mcglashan(a)affinityvision.com.au>: >> >> > including a working fsck ability, which is essential. >> >> It's overrated;-) > > Not on an experimental filesystem which can have some, umm, > interesting bugs at times.. ;-) The fsck looks more magic than everything else to me (because it has to catch "the unexpected") and if you try "magic" on something that is not fully understood yet.. good luck with that. I see your point. At the moment I go for plan B first (backup/failover) instead of praying that magic helps me if it goes pear-shaped. In that sense it may be a waste of time to write a fsck. However, I can imagine that it helps you to improve the original code. If you write fsck you have to think about "what can go wrong" - and then you are half-way through to fix it (and not relying on fsck). I always avoid software that needs "repair tools" in production. E.g. I hated to work with MySQL 3 and having to fix MyISAM tables and indexes if something went wrong. It took me a while until I wanted to touch MySQL again.. These days I do not even remember what the repair tools look like, and I hope I never have to google for it. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-main] backkuppc and ZFS (was Re: Back ups)
by Chris Samuel 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:50:43 PM Chris Samuel wrote: > FWIW I attach my homegrown zsnapshot and bsnapshot scripts > in case they are of use.. GPLv3 or later. Now here: https://github.com/chrissamuel/Scripts I've now stopped using ZFS/FUSE and moved to the "ZFS on Linux" DKMS version instead as it seems to be progressing well, so I've modified the zsnapshot script to just use zfs mount/umount. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP

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Digest mode broken ?
by Andrew Mather 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Hi, Up until a few minutes ago, I was getting both LUV Main and LUV Talk in digest mode only. In the last few minutes, I have started to receive unbundled messages to LUV Main and on logging into the mailman page, saw that Digest mode was turned off. I have since enabled Digest again. Has something happened with the listserver, or was it just me ? Andrew -- - http://surfcoast.redbubble.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid; Humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." Albert Einstein -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A committee is a cul-de-sac, down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled. *Sir Barnett Cocks<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sir_Barnett_Cocks/> * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it's not open." :- Frank Zappa -

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Re: [luv-main] LUV mailing list header changes (was Re: Digest mode broken ?)
by Tony Langdon 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

At 06:33 PM 9/14/2011, Tim Connors wrote: >And that damn "[luv-main]" text has been prepended by stealth after years >of arguing for and against. Someone cared so much about it that they >killed the hardware just so they could slip this in? :P Yeah, I did see that. Was a bit like the Spanish Inquisition - I wasn't expecting it :D >(can we fix that setting, pretty please? procmail can easily filter posts >into folders without that, but can't strip the useless text out of the >subject line, at least reliably, and guaranteed to work no matter how >many times the thread bounces back and forth between luv-main and >luv-talk, and how many times people change the subject line of a thread.) Some good points there. Personally, it's never been a big issue for me either way, and even less so now that I've finally got around to filtering on the right header :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

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pacemaker, iscsi, multipath, and filesystem
by James Harper 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

I'm testing multipath with iscsi now, and having the multipath infrastructure present means that the actual iscsi device is unusable, you have to go through the multipath device node. This makes perfect sense exact that pacemaker wants to mount the filesystem before multipath has created the device node. I notice there is a Delay agent, but that seems like a bit of a hack - how much of a delay is enough, without waiting unnecessarily long? Any suggestions? This is a followup to my nfs or ocfs2 question... it turns out that nfs failover doesn't work that smoothly due to hanging tcp connections and holding the block device open so I've gone with ocfs2. Thanks James

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