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Re: [luv-talk] Maths for beginners
by Peter Ross 17 May '14

17 May '14

From: "Brent Wallis" <brent.wallis(a)gmail.com> > Told myself not to reply but can not let this go. > > > - First...there is an error in your calc. ABS data shows we were at 22.7 M > users as of 2012. The numbers were to give a "rough idea". If I come up with 100 years and have 6 years to 2020.. you can double the number of visits and interest and a few percent higher population - these all does not come close to was floated two days ago. If you tell me you are running 10 GByte/sec over a GBit/sec switch, I do not bother to check whether 10.4 or 8.7 GByte/sec - there is something fundamentally wrong. > I could go on but please do answer 1 very important question then suggest > that you perhaps take the ill informed fake green tanty somewhere > else...that party used to stand for something worthwhile, now they just > rant and rave like the extremists they have become: > > A keystone of the current budget was to levy high income earners 2% for a > fixed period to help rein in debt: > > Why are the Greens so divided on this given past statements? I asked this myself, I do not have a clear answer yet (I contacted Adam Bandt over this) but I can tell you what I think. > Why and how has "Kristine the Milliner" won an internal "Pseudo Green > Party" policy debate on the issue? > Could it be just plain hubris, personal hatred and poltix? Well, I can see how passionate you are about the Greens. You seem to love them a lot;-) http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/budget-long-on-losers-shor… "High income earners are hit too, with a two per cent deficit levy that will cost someone on $200,000 a year an extra $400 a year - but only for three years." That sounds like an cornerstone of the budget.. I am impressed. The question is whether you let this fig leaf pass or show it as it is: a fig leaf to hide that it is a budget to ensure that the rich get richer and the poor poorer.. This levy is, as the biology research fund, a last minute stunt to justify what the Coalition is doing. There is no seriousness in this. Just look at the last months of decision making. My family at the kitchen table has more logical discussions than that. All was "utterly nonsense" one day and next day in the budget, this levy started at $80 000 one day and $180 000 two later, there was "no $70 billion black hole" in their promises and on the sudden we had a budget emergency, we cannot afford NBN and then we have $20 billion for medical research, we have problems with Medicare and than on the sudden we do not pay for Medicare, we pay for research, there are no cuts to education and than education is not Federal so the States have to run it, on the sudden we have schools again and have $250 million dollars for school chaplans financed by the Commonwealth.. Sounded very much like the adults are back in government.. They know what they are doing - they just have to create a smokescreen big enough to ensure that enough people vote for them - despite stealing the money from our pockets. But this fire may to big, hopefully, even for Murdoch's Own Country. By accident I saw "Two men in China" after the budget night. There were ex-pats mourning the ignorance shown recently to invest in our relationship which China, even when Australians were first when China opened. There were reports of Chinese praising the Australians engineering efficient wind farms etc. There were 2 men asking: what else can Australia trade with China besides of the obvious: our soil? Can you imagine what the current government will do in this regard? The axing of support for solar energy and wind farms? The cut for the Australia Network run by the ABC? The truth is: there is no interest in investing in anything here. Just cut and give Gina her $2 slave labour. Forget the medical research. It's there to introduce you to the end of free health care in Australia. Unis for research? First, they are good for selling degrees for the ones that can pay. And create private unis. Because the money should always go to the rich. It's just wasted on the poor. Just ask your Minister for Science. Oops, we do not have one.. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Tony Abbott 5/9/2013, the week before the election
by Peter Ross 17 May '14

17 May '14

From: "Trent W. Buck" > Peter Ross wrote: >> If you are a Herald Sun reader, you may still have to be introduced >> to [...] Bill Shorten. >> >> Given that yesterday there was his budget reply, it is amazing how >> the Herald Sun can send it as a little article to page 7 or 9, >> sorry, I did not look which number it was - but it's practically >> "buried" and has probably a quarter of a page. > > Why are you even reading it? Pure masochism;-) There was a bit of curiosity what the Herald Sun will report. It's more propaganda than news. It makes me feel home, back in Communism again. There is a difference: Most of East Germans were aware that it is propaganda. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Tony Abbott 5/9/2013, the week before the election
by Peter Ross 16 May '14

16 May '14

From: "Tim Connors" <tconnors(a)rather.puzzling.org> > On Thu, 15 May 2014, Peter Ross wrote: > >> Dear Terry, .. > Could you do us a favour and proofread before sending stuff off to > ministers. Point taken. I saw some errors as well. I did it online and I was writing the last paragraph when I reached the maximum numbers of characters so I had to go back and forth to streamline it. I was more busy with that. > If they can't understand you, they will just bin your opinion. Well, I hope the message came across. To be calm is difficult in this climate. Just think of the $400 sacrifice of a $200 000 earner while someone under 30 has to wait half a year to get any money when unlucky enough not to have or to lose his job. It's a frontal assault on the social welfare net "balanced" with a few bucks less for well-off people. That's passing a "fair share" test for the ruling class here.. http://australianpolitics.com/2014/05/13/hockey-federal-budget-speech.html "As Australians, we must not leave our children worse off. That’s not fair. That is not our way." That was Hockey in his budget speech. Straight from Orwell's Ministry of Truth. (Little reminder: The unemployed under 30 are someone's children..) And people vote for this bullfish.. and, when I look at The Herald Sun, that's the brainwash the majority of people get as their daily medicine. Regards Peter

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Slow down problem with SSD boot drives ?
by Rohan McLeod 16 May '14

16 May '14

Assembled illuminati; whilst purchasing some second hand 4GB DDR3 240 pin RAM sticks ; at Dan IC Design and SYnthesis Computer Equipment--Home &/or Small Business - Springvale, VIC 50 Garnsworthy St, Springvale VIC 3171 We started discussing SSD boot drives and it was suggested that SSD boot drives with both sata 3.0 and PCIe interfaces suffer from a fairly severe slow-down problem after about 6 - 12months use. 1/ Has anyone noticed such a problem ? 2/ If such problem exists any theories ? - all I could think was that somehow boot drives were subject to extreme wear and the reallocated 'cells' were at the end and somehow the replacement 'out-of-sequence' cells; were slowing the drive down in the manner of a fragmented rotating drive ? regards Rohan McLeod

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Re: [luv-talk] Fwd: Fwd: Tony Abbott 5/9/2013, the week before the election
by Peter Ross 16 May '14

16 May '14

From: "Andrew McGlashan" <andrew.mcglashan(a)affinityvision.com.au> > Online petitions usually amount to absolutely nothing unless the numbers > are far too high to ignore. http://act.sumofus.org/go/4460 has more than 58 000 by now. Do you know that the ALP has an opposition leader? If you are a Herald Sun reader, you may still have to be introduced to him. It's Bill Shorten. Given that yesterday there was his budget reply, it is amazing how the Herald Sun can send it as a little article to page 7 or 9, sorry, I did not look which number it was - but it's practically "buried" and has probably a quarter of a page. Compare that to the coverage Abbott had as opposition leader. Does the budget reply matter for anyone in Australia? Maybe.. As said, there is the end of free Healthcare, and the punishing of young unemployed - all, by the way, mentioned by Shorten in a speech that was one worth listening to - because it was not much biting at Abbott, more concentrating on facts and impact for Australians. If you are unemployed and not in education and below 30, you do not get any money. Does it matter? We have two apprentices here, in their 3rd year I think. They both come from problematic family back ground and are happy to have found work and qualification. E.g. they do not touch alcohol - they have seen what it did to their parents. The company is going soso, smaller factory in the automotive industry... just imagine we fail and they are jobless tomorrow. No support from home, no support from us via Centrelink, I guess they did not save much from their money they got as apprentices: What chances do they have? What are their options? Do we go back to convict people for stealing bread? Or is it a heartless ploy to argue next for an abolition of the minimal wage? One step closer to Gina's $2 a day slave labour because we create a desperate underclass now? How do you justify the cut? The Liberals sound like we are in the Great Depression, not in one of the richest countries on Earth, with more than 20 years without recession and with comparable low public debt - Shorten is right to point out that we one of only eight countries worldwide with AAA credit rating. But there is no public discussion. If the safety net is too expensive now, in one of the richest country on Earth, what will happen if Australia finally goes into a recession? And will it hit you? Or your kids? Happy dreaming Australia Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] postfix+dovecot: smtp - pop3 authentication isssue
by Daniel Jitnah 16 May '14

16 May '14

This is a tale of many things and of many errors. (original post is below) I am cc'ing this to luv-talk, as it is not a Linux issue. Please respond on luv-talk if you wish to. It appears that at some stage in the last few months, the original domain registrar and dns hosting of this user was taken over by another [bigger] registrar (if you know anything about this having happened lately, you may know who is involved). In this process though it seems that the dns record of the email server was changed, unknown to the user (at least the user has no record of this). While the MX still pointed to the users own server (physically located in their office), the outgoing smtp server was redirected to the hosting provider's own smtp server, rather than the original clients email server as an A record. (mail.example.com.au) For some reason also, the hosting provider blocked external IP of the user's office a few days ago, causing smtp to stop. (apparently because they detected unusual activity coming from that IP) So while the client was able to access smtp services outside the office, they could not do so from inside inside, but when using the ip of the internal server they could access smtp (but a different server). My question is, does any one know if its a known practice for a dns hosting provider to change a record to a smtp server to point to their own, and that without informing the user? (it is still possible that the user was informed but did not make a record of this). Contacting the dns hosting provider, they only said everything is fine on their side, and could give no more info. BTW: this changed was discovered when I noted that in email coming from outside the header showed that it was processed by an Exim smtp server, where as the users one is actually a Postfix one. Cheers Daniel. On 15/05/14 10:57, Daniel Jitnah wrote: > Hi Luvers, > > Here is scenario (not for me by the way, but someone else) > > Using laptop with Outlook/Win 7 for client. > Mail server is Linux Ubuntu 10.10 (due for upgrade to 14.04 soon) - > using Postfix+Dovecot. > > 1. Able to authenticate to server for smtp and pop using wifi at home > and using 3G anywhere. > > 2. Unable to authenticate in workplace office (talking office building > not Office software!!)- keeps asking for username and password when > using mail.example.com.au in settings for outlook. (substitute for real > domain name of course) > > 3. Able to authenticate as above if using ip number instead, which makes > sense, since in office wifi and mail server on same subnet (192.168.1.X) > > Why would authentication not work using domain name instead of IP in > workplace? This suddenly started about 1 week ago, and has been working > fine for months before. Any idea? (I need a clear thinking mind here! > Mine is clogged up with all sorts of possibilities... including NSA > conspiracy!!) > > (Before I can tell the user his Outlook/Win 7 is screwed up, I want to > eliminate other possibilities. The only thing he says has change is an > antivirus software update) > > > Cheers > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > luv-main mailing list > luv-main(a)luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main >

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Re: [luv-talk] Maths for beginners
by Peter Ross 15 May '14

15 May '14

Peter Ross wrote: > It's there to introduce you to the end of > free health care in Australia. http://act.sumofus.org/go/4460 It has nearly 50 000 signatures already.. The "Medicare co-payment" has to go through the Senate as a single item. Signing this gives the opposing sides, whether it is ALP, Greens, Palmer, Independents, a heads-up how we care about it. So it may help to defend it, I hope. Personally, my then-partner asked me to choose America or Australia. Having a social welfare system was important to us. I do not want to end up old and signing cheques in the emergency department before somebody asks me where it hurts. Do you want this? As a joke, we could ask Sydney/NSW to leave the Commonwealth and join the United States. That would send over Abbott, Morrison, Hockey and Allan Jones - all welcome contribution to the Tea Party, I think. Regards Peter

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Maths for beginners
by Peter 15 May '14

15 May '14

http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/federal-budget-2014-joe-hocke… 513-387z6.html "little good news other than a new $20 billion medical research fund – to come from a $5 contribution by patients when visiting the doctor. Each visit will cost $7, with the other $2 going to the doctor." http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-letters/copayment-for-gp-emergency-visits… 304j8.html "The proposed $6 co-payment for a GP visit would deliver an immediate budget saving of less than $200 million a year." Okay, for the quick and dirty calculation as a "sanity check": that is 2 visits per person (from baby to pensioner, ca. 20 million people) per year paying $5. It's possibly around right. How many years does it take to establish a $20 billion fond? How many years do we have until 2020 to get these 20 billion dollars? Regards Peter

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Tony Abbott 5/9/2013, the week before the election
by Peter 14 May '14

14 May '14

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3841545.htm TONY ABBOTT: Well Joe Hockey and Andrew Robb are going to be releasing those figures later on today and I'm not going to pre-empt the detail, but I can assure your listeners that there will be no cuts to health, no cuts to education, no cuts to pensions, no change to the GST and Mr Rudd's hysterical talk of a $70 billion black hole will turn out to be just hyperventilation from a Prime Minister with no record to defend and no vision for the future. Feel free to ask your local MP what that was worth. Regards Peter

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Melbourne transport gets more bizarre?
by Peter 12 May '14

12 May '14

Hi all, I wonder what it takes to stop our government wasting billions of dollars whch do not make any sense at all. The East West Link, okay, I think I wrote about that peace that will "fast-track" road traffic between crowded streets, as Eastern Freeway, Hoddle Street and the Tullamarine Freeway. All of them are overcrowded stop-and-go traffic roads at peak hours and you may have fast traffic between them if the cars entering the East West Link magically disappear without re-entering crowded streets on the other end. A black hole may do, probably. (My view is backed by the leaked impact studies we are officially not allowed to see, btw) Obviously the same logic will apply for the Metro Rail Tunnel announced today. When I take the train from my workplace to the CBD, from Macaulay (Upfield line) or Kensington station (Cragieburn line), I spent usually ca. 15 minutes (for ca. 5km) because the tracks around North Melbourne and Southern Cross are overcrowded and the trains all "park" for minutes inbetween. The "re-engineered" Metro Rail will not enter the tunnel north of the CBD, instead it is planned to go from South Yarra via Domain to Fishermans Bend and... voila - appear at Southern Cross. From there a new Airport Link will go through Footscray and Sunshine - so will leave Southern Cross the "North Melbourne" way. What a pity that it is already overcrowded there.. It looks, in the same manner Naphtine glossed over the details of the East West Link, it is a "bright" idea thatsome how fixes itself while building. For the East West Link it means most likely further damage to Royal Park as firstly admitted, and I have no idea with what kind of inventive methods they come up when building the rail lines. I consider this here extremely bizarre, and Melbournians get next to nothing for 25 billion dollars and more.. [cutting out here the private-public partnership where we spent more over time, locked in the budgets for 20/30 years, than if we would borrow and repay using bonds.. so far for "surpluses" achieved by creative accounting] A freeway to "complete" a network may look good, an airport link too - but I cannot see much value in it, definitely not one worth the biggest investment items for Melbourne for the next 10 years and burdening the budget for a few decades. There was planning before, it just gets thrown out and replaced by somebold strokes over a map by some West Victorian cowboys who may know how to build a road in Collac or Warrnambool but do not make any sense if it comes to serve transport in a multi-million people city. At the moment I take the bike, having a few minutes of tranquility along the Mooney Ponds Creek while being faster than car or train/tram between Port Melbourne and Kensington. Well, the green side of the creek will be replaced by another four lane road soon, thanks to East West Link. That's a bonus I get for the 16 billion dollars.. I wonder whether it is actually possible to inform Victorians about this. I am pretty sure the majority of the people have never heard about the "logic" of these projects. Furthermore, is it possible to have planning and construction in Melbourne that makes sense? Regards Peter

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