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Get the hell off Apache OpenOffice
by Lev Lafayette 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

An old friend of mine posted an well-referenced rant on why people should leave OpenOffice. "... actively dangerous to use" http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/596490.html Security bug is as follows: http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2015-1774.html -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

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Fwd: Symposium Invitation: Opportunities for Australia in the Global Energy Transition
by Russell Coker 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

This looks interesting, and it's free. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Fwd: The FML Arduino meetup has a new home: 210 Whitehall Street, Footscray
by spyder.king＠yahoo.com.au 11 Sep '15

11 Sep '15

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How to talk to liberals
by Russell Coker 06 Sep '15

06 Sep '15

http://www.howtotalktoyourliberalmate.com.au/#budget2015 -- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with K-9 Mail.

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Re: [luv-talk] The 30th anniversary of a long wait for some ...
by David E Payne 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

-------------------------------------------- On Sun, 16/8/15, spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au <spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: Subject: The 30th anniversary of a long wait for some ... To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au Received: Sunday, 16 August, 2015, 4:47 AM SNIP I've read a lot of places that even in the USA, Amigas weren't available until September 1985, the same month as the MsDOS application (not OS!) Microsoft Windows (undeserved ™). ("Microsoft Blind" or "Microsoft Curtain" would have described it more truthfully since it was in some ways covering over the O.S. ) SNIP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Actually, MAUG http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MAUG/ will have the 30th anniversary meeting, (and AGM I think), tonight and some kind of sale ( mostly Amiga stuff) next month, unless they don't. In other words, check the website b4 going, you don't need to be a member of the Yahoo group to read their discussions, but you will need a recent common graphical web-browser.) Not long after the first Amiga and first Microsoft Windows releases in September, 1985, the Free Software Foundation was born. https://fsf.org/fsf30/celebration I think there is no clear ranking between the significance of these three occurrences since we can only speculate what would have happened if one, two or all of them hadn't happened. For example, I can well imagine that a GNU-like licence would likely not have been widely adopted for some time if ever, so if Linus had still written his kernel he would have used a compiler with a different licence, perhaps a totally unfree one. Perhaps he would have used an MIT licence for his software, or maybe something quite else. Maybe GEM or Geoworks would have come to be on most IBM compatibles' presumably at a slower pace without Microsoft's involvement. Maybe X86 P,ieces of C.rudity would not have so dominated for so long. As for the Amiga, while anything above a "watch" or *duino works more like an Amiga than an IBM PC or Macintosh from 1985, it's innovations' (for that price point), like eg. those of Charles Babbage, Konrad Zuse, Ivan Sutherland, Doug Engelbart, Charles F. Moore etc were often less influential than they were pioneering. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dav-id " .... We hand over the most cordial congratulations by the Soviet government on the occasion of splendid success of German Wehrmacht. Guderian's tanks broke through to the sea near Abbeville, powered by Soviet fuel, the German bombs, that razed Rotterdam to the ground, were filled with Soviet pyroxylin, and bullet cases, which hit the British soldiers retreating from Dunkirk, were cast of Soviet cupronickel alloy..." Vyacheslav Molotov, then Foreign Policy Minister of the supposedly opposite USSR. 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Interview with Lennart Poettring
by Peter Ross 31 Aug '15

31 Aug '15

http://www.linuxvoice.com/interview-lennart-poettering/#comment-281265 Two quotes: "So that’s a misconception that I’m always bemused about, and I’m pretty sure that most people who claim that have never actually played around with Unix at all." [others like Debian had very intense debates and resignations] "Then if you look at Gentoo, for example, they still haven’t done Systemd as default.They used to be like Arch Linux is now – they used to be the young people who adopted things quickly. But the Gentoo people aged, and they became more conservative. And Debian is probably an even more conservative bunch." Hmmh.. one moment the people with arguments have no clue what Unix is about, and later the people who argue are just too old and conservative (and still don't know what Unix is about, I guess) His statements are full of personal attacks - and very light on technical arguments. Well, obviously Linux development works like politics.. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Anyone in need of any older computer gear?
by David E Payne 29 Aug '15

29 Aug '15

On Thu, 27/8/15, Rohan McLeod <rhn(a)jeack.com.au> wrote: Get thee behind me Satan ! :-) regards Rohan Mcleod _______________________________________________ Rohan, that's a commendably brief summary of the feelings me, and probably many of us. Problem is, I feel rendering these works of craft back to dumb lumps of metals is a greater evil! Fortunately I know some collectors who will take almost anything. Unfortunately, not the ones who were interested in a public museum, which I think ought to have an example of some of these;- I'm thinking the (already claimed anyway) BBC with tube co-processor and the Labtam X-terminal (possibly the first company to sell them, based in Braeside, Melbourne, Oz < imagine a Norman Gunston style jingoistic hawk & spit>!). (Except the bloke planning a museum of anything that plays games might like the BBC(s). Actually, looking at the wicked pedia to confirm my impression that "The Tube" was the buss to connect another CPU, not a peripheral CPU unit as such, I see that Julian Barson's company in Abbottsford, Melb, Oz adapted the Econet filing system from Acorn's System 2 so another hawk & spit! (Sorry about the sound, but I have acute rhinitus, possibly related to my deviated septum.) Most people, as distinct from the weirdos who read LUV lists, might be surprised at how common collecting old IT has become in the last few years. Most of them are interested in what they had, or wished to have, when they were a kid/teenager. Many of them aren't interested in things they never heard of. Then you have those after the obscure, including the completists that mostly already have the common stuff they want. Some of them are the ones who've driven the prices of rarer stuff way up. Yes, you can get serious money for some items, if you are prepared to wait. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dav-id " .... We are just consumers to the huge corporations of the computer and telecommunications industry. They want to sell to us all right, but they won t sell us everything we need; that is, they won't make us powerful, unless we insist." Ward Cunningham http://c2.com/doc/forewords/beck2.html

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1-4pm Sat, Kids creation Challenge #1 for ~8~14 yr olds
by David E Payne 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

http://www.meetup.com/footscraymakerlab/events/223013038/ Vague plans for future challenges include building vehicles from bike etc. parts. If future challenges happen, FML may by then be in a different locale as the factory buildings will be replaced by accommodation. Pity the showbiz prop makers probably won't be in the same building as FML then. Crocodiles, giant bed bugs and aliens in powered walking spacesuit/vehicles etc. add a lot of charm to the place. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dav-id " .... We are just consumers to the huge corporations of the computer and telecommunications industry. They want to sell to us all right, but they won t sell us everything we need; that is, they won't make us powerful, unless we insist." Ward Cunningham http://c2.com/doc/forewords/beck2.html

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Re: [luv-talk] Anyone in need of any older computer gear?
by Anthony Hogan 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

> What are these devices? > Thanks Okey dokey.. just done an initial pass of what I could see... > > * Multiple 10/100 switches (a couple may be managed) of varying > > sizes (16-24 port I think) DLink DES-1008D 10/100 8 port unmanaged DES-1008D Netgear FS516 10/100 16 port unmanaged DLink DES-3225G 10/100 24 w/serial management port + optical connections LANTECH FlexSwitch HUB 2400Pro unmanaged (needs a new DC cooling fan) > > * Multiple WiFi routers with and without modems, one 3G Telstra Bigpond Netcomm 3G9WB 802.11g 4 port 3G router Billion 741A GE 4 port+USB ADSL router Netgear DG834Gv4 ADSL2+ 802.11g 4 port router Belkin F5D7230-4 802.11g 4 port router (admittedly a bit flaky, truth be told) Netgear WGR614v5 802.11g 4 port router Netcomm NB1300+4 4 port+USB ADSL router Netcomm NB1300r2 1 port+USB ADSL router Siemens Speedstream 4200 1 port+USB ADSL router (iffy if it works, probably not any good) Somewhere I'm pretty sure I've got a DLink DI-624 and a DI-624+ Aside: I'm currently using a Linksys WAG320N (unpatched WPS bug) as a modem only in bridge mode with a Netgear WNR2000v2 running DD-WRT at the moment. I have a TPLink TD-8810 as my backup modem (ok in bridge mode, pretty average routing). Swapped out a few folks routers for Asus RT-AC3200 routers.. decent range, firmware based on DD-WRT and possible to swap over to other firmware from what I can tell. > > * 3Com business routers (another dumpster dive) 2x 3Com Router 5012

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Musing about backup solutions for the technically illiterate (parents) - a way perhaps to insulate against ransomware?
by Anthony Hogan 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

I should really poke my head about in here more often. That said, spending my days poking and prodding emulated vaxen does often leave one wanting to unplug. Anyway, recently my folks got an email from their ISP (Westnet) scaring them, thinking they'd been hacked (it turns out an old Westnet user database had been compromised, along with cleartext usernames and passwords... oopsies?). Before I figured out what it was, I was thinking suspicious activity had been detected on their accounts and was worried about whether or not they'd backed up recently... then my thoughts turned to cryptoware and how it basically spreads out to whatever it touches and encrypts everything (had someone else hit by a bug recently - and I'm moving them and their formerly Windows XP computer to Lubuntu as they only need Windowsish looking email, web browsing and printing). Anyway.. long setup aside, I was thinking, that perhaps the best way to deal with backups and cryptoware, was to have the system that needed to be backed up make itself available to an authorised backup storage provider by some restricted and secured means (over a LAN or encrypted link). That backup storage provider could be prodded by the client system to perform a pull, but the client would never have direct, unrestricted access to the backup server's archives. Most cryptoware, when it's in its initial stages, will, when beginning to encrypt everything, transparently decrypt it on request such that the user doesn't know it's happening until the encryption is complete and the software can hit the user up for ransom. Arguably speaking, that transparent decryption would cover any application accessing user data, including the backup system pushing the data out over the network or whatever connectivity means (I mean, presumably ransomware isn't going to stop someone emailing something, so unless it could identify the backup software..). Then, as a means of detecting whether or not a given system has been attacked, a "canary file" or files, nominated by the user, but not in any way "configured" on the client, and backed up along with all the user's other files. Something like a Word document, or a text document, or an Excel document.. whatever.. The backup system, separately, would be instructed to check this file every time a backup runs, and if it's been touched or corrupted (perhaps, it might be a file check, or a spell check, or just a checksum to see if any change), and if it has, to alert the user by alternate means (email, SMS etc.), ensuring that any backup rotations/data deduplication maintains at least the last snapshot prior to the alert until the data's been verified. I'm thinking, some linux based system could easily play the server.. presenting a web based interface of some sort or being remotely managed as a service or being a cloud service.. perhaps managed from someone's phone (arguably separate to their desktop and these days not always tethered to their computer, but connected via cloud services for syncing). Lord knows I have enough old iron floating about my garage to whip up something suitable for at least my folks :) I wonder.. surely.. there's gotta be stuff out there like this already? Eg. Backup dropboxes ... perhaps the "canary" element is new? Has anyone ever implemented something like this? Thoughts, comments? Anthony --

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