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Melbourne Cup talk: The Pragmatic Limits of Scientism in the New Atheism
by Lev Lafayette 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

This might interest a few people, especially if they're not doing anything on the traditional night of LUV meetings... ATHEIST SOCIETY - 8pm Tuesday 12 November 2013 Free public lecture followed by questions and discussion: "The Pragmatic Limits of Scientism in the New Atheism". Speaker - Lev Lafayette Venue - Unitarian Hall, 110 Grey Street, East Melbourne. Enquiries - David Miller, Secretary. Tel: 9467 2063 Email - atheist_agnostic(a)lycos.com .. Of course, if you're intending to go to LUV as well, you'll have to put up with my voice two days in a row! -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GCertPM, MBA mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

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Re: [luv-talk] The Age today: 30-year-old railway computers take a byte out of the past
by Petros 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

From: "Les Kitchen" <ljk(a)csse.unimelb.edu.au> > Responding to what Petros said: >> I keep an half inch tape from a K1630, an East German PDP-11 clone. > > We'd often have four or five simultaneous users on the PDP-11 at > CVL (out of about 30 in the Lab with accounts on the machine), > doing image processing and analysis, and I remember interactive > performance (editing, shell) was generally pretty good. But we > had a strong culture of nicing any non-interactive processes > (like compiles and image processing). Do you remember what OS > you ran on the K1630? Maybe it didn't have a convenient nice. It was MOOS 1600(RSX-11 compatible), not Unix. There was MUTOS available, a Unix (System 7?) but it was not installed on the machine we used. I do not remember whether RSX-11 had a "nice" but I am sure we did not use it in the first week of studies. I read a book about the internals of RSX-11 short time afterwards, it was a copy on a microfiche. It was quite difficult to get a hand on literature like this when living on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] The Age today: 30-year-old railway computers take a byte out of the past
by Petros 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

From: "Duncan16v" > Oops. I stand corrected. PDP-11/74 then PDP-11/80 > > http://irse.org.au/index.php/en/component/docman/doc_download/569-metrol-co… I keep an half inch tape from a K1630, an East German PDP-11 clone. In the first week studying back in 1987 they gave access to a K1630, three students at the time. They shared the CPU and 256kByte of RAM. When one started compiling the editing became slow, when two compiled the third student could go out for a coffee. When you were patient enough to endure it they gave you another challenge, a GD-80 vector graphics system from Hungary, looking like a radar screen and programmable with Logo and Turtle Graphics. After that you were qualified to use faster equipment. Amongst others we had two VAX-11/780 then, using Schneider PCs with a VT-320 emulation. The K1630 retired in (Northern) spring 1990. The paper strips were used for the carnival. That was its last job I know of. We just had a new building finished when the wall came down. The K1630 was already planned to stay behind and not to move into the new house - and the donations from the West (introducing SPARCstations, HPs, DECstations to us) were the final nail in the coffin. Unbelievable to find PDP-11s in use, here and now! Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Red Hat Technical Deep Dive Series: An introduction to Red Hat OpenStack
by Russell Coker 08 Oct '13

08 Oct '13

This Red Hat presentation is on the 24th of Oct from 16:30 onwards in Melbourne. It seems interesting and fun. If you'd like to attend then email Amy (I'm sure that she will welcome LUV members) or email me and I'll try and get a URL from their site that doesn't refer to me. On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, "Red Hat" <engage(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform combines the power of Red Hat > Enterprise Linux with the OpenStack cloud platform to deliver a scalable > and secure foundation for building both private or public clouds. Designed > to meet the needs of advanced cloud users, telecommunications companies, > Internet Service Providers (ISPs), and public cloud hosting providers, Red > Hat Enterprise OpenStack Platform integrates the world’s leading > enterprise Linux and the industry’s fastest growing cloud infrastructure > platform to give organizations the agility to scale and quickly meet > customer demands without compromising on availability, security, and > performance. Join us at one of our technical deep dive sessions to learn > more about Red Hat's enterprise ready version of OpenStack and see where > OpenStack fits within Red Hat's vision of the Open Hybrid Cloud. Focus > areas will include; > * What is OpenStack > * OpenStack vs traditional virtualisation > * Understanding cloud workloads > * How Red Hat OpenStack is different from community distributions > * RDO, and what value does it add to the OpenStack community > * Red Hat’s OpenStack strategy > * Enterprise ready Red Hat OpenStack 3.0 and beyond > * Open Hybrid Cloud Infrastructure from Red Hat > > We hope you can join us. > For further event information or general enquiries please email Amy Ho > <mailto:amy.ho@redhat.com?subject=TechnicalDeepDives>. Kind regards > Red Hat Technical Team -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Arjen in MEL Mon-Tue
by Arjen Lentz 06 Oct '13

06 Oct '13

Hiya all Will be in #MEL Monday-Tuesday this week, visiting clients. Still free Monday eve. Anyone for dinner? I can catch a tram into town. (text my mobile, you probably already have the #) Cheers, Arjen. -- Exec.Director @ Open Query (http://openquery.com) MariaDB/MySQL services Sane business strategy explorations at http://upstarta.com.au Personal blog at http://lentz.com.au/blog/

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RACV elections
by Rodney Brown 05 Oct '13

05 Oct '13

A reminder that should RACV members on the list wish to vote on 2 members of the RACV board, in the light of the RACV's "forthrigh support for the east-west link", votes must be received by Friday. https://newmatilda.com/2013/10/03/toll-roads-and-other-mumbo-jumbo http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/racv-carculture-politics-attacked-2013083…

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Intel processor confusion
by Brian May 05 Oct '13

05 Oct '13

Hello, Looking at these pages: http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/67456/Ivy-Bridge-E http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/29902/ What does "Formerly Ivy Bridge E" and "Formerly Ivy Bridge" mean? Are these 3rd generation/Ivy Bridge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) Or 4th generation/Haswell? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell-E Reason for asking is that I am looking purchasing a computer that is advertised as using 4th generation chips, and it uses "Formally Ivy Bridge E" chips. Which appear to be 3rd generation not 4th generation. I contacted the seller and got a response that confused me even more (they are based on 3rd generation Ivy Bridge E but released as 4th generation??), so just trying to work out what the situation is. Thanks -- Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au>

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Boat people somewhere else
by Petros 03 Oct '13

03 Oct '13

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24380247 "At least 130 African migrants have died and many more are missing after a boat carrying them to Europe sank off the southern Italian island of Lampedusa." It is one of the worst such disasters to occur off the Italian coast in recent years; Prime Minister Enrico Letta tweeted that it was "an immense tragedy". The government has declared a day of national mourning on Friday. "There is no miraculous solution to the migrant exodus issue," said Italian Foreign Minister Emma Bonino. "If there were we would have found it and put it into action." The number of those arriving by sea to Italy this year until 30 September stood at 30,100, according to the UN. --- Regards Peter

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OSDC 2013 Keynote Speakers and Panel - tickets are still available
by Cherie Ellis 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

OSDC 2013 Keynote Speakers and Panel *Sam Minnée - Silverstripe** **9am Monday 21st October* Sam Minnée, Chief Executive Officer and co-founder of SilverStripe, has shaped the SilverStripe Suite and is part of its success story as an internationally respected Open Source CMS. Prior to being appointed CEO in April 2011, Sam was SilverStripe's Chief Technology Officer for several years, since the company's humble beginnings in 2000. He created a CMS that is smarter, more intuitive and more enjoyable to use. His focus is on applying modern web development techniques to building software that enables the creation of technically complex websites and applications. Sam has a BA in Computing and Philosophy from Victoria University. When he's not at work, he enjoys anything from a good book (shameless sci-fi fan!) to the next Drum'n'bass gig. * **Vikram Kumar (Mega)** **9am Wednesday 23rd October* Discussion panel - 9.30am Tuesday 22nd October Vikram has been CEO of Mega Ltd. since February of this year. Mega provides cloud storage and collaboration services globally. Prior to this, he was Chief Executive of InternetNZ and has also worked with government (State Services Commission) and Telecom NZ. Vikram has over two decades of experience and interest in thinking about the social, economic, political, and cultural impact of the Internet. *Paul Fenwick (Perl Training Australia)** **4pm Wednesday 23rd October* Paul Fenwick is the managing director of Perl Training Australia, and has been teaching computer science for over a decade. He is an internationally acclaimed presenter at conferences and user-groups worldwide, where he is well-known for his humour and off-beat topics. *Privacy and Security Panel** **9:30am Tuesday 22rd October* Our Tuesday morning panel features amazing guest speakers, including the deputy Privacy Commissioner, Katrine Evans, and CEO of Mega Ltd, Vikram Kumar. The panel will pragmatically discuss how you can live with this new GCSB bill now that we have it, and how you can best protect yourself and offer practical solutions for your customers. The conference covers everything from revision control to the latest software development methodologies and tools, OSDC cannot afford to be missed by anyone who uses open source development tools, or writes open source software. Tickets are still available from https://osdc-2013-auckland.lilregie.com/step1 -- Cherie Ellis The OSDC 2013 team http://osdc.org.nz / @osdconf / https://www.facebook.com/OSDConf

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Re: [luv-talk] Combating Microsoft FUD.
by Daniel Jitnah 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Copied to LUV-Talk. Honestly, I dont think its worth your effort trying to talk someone like the Burser to have Linux. Can you by-pass him/her? You really have to know who you are talking to... for some people its just not worth the effort. There are many strategies and what works for one will not work for someone else. Sometimes its just better to not tell them its Linux, set up the machine with Linux and it does the job - if its a server they wont know Talk Open Source Software, Ubuntu etc... Find someone who is likely to be willing to give Linux a try, can understand that Android = Linux (for the purpose of the argument here!!) instead of said Burser to talk to. Talk up application and systems like Scratch, Edubuntu etc .. Talk security - NO virus Show them the OpenCD Assure them they dont have to give up Windows Show them data that shows where Open Source software Linux is used very successfully: Top500 Supercomputers, Top website (Alexa), NASA, etc .... : assuming here that they are willing to listen. Tell them that Microsoft share of the Market is in decline and that MS soft share price is going down. Tell them like it or not, people are using PC's less and less, and Microsoft has only a small share of mobile devices (Tablet and smartphone) - ie: people will be using Windows much less, so getting to know another system is advantageous. Just some ideas. Cheers Daniel. On Mon, September 30, 2013 17:51, Peter Nunn wrote: > Hi Guys, > > At the risk of starting a thread that runs for months, how do you overcome microsoft FUB in the education sector. > > I've just quoted a couple of machines for a local, not for profit, school up my way that were intended to run KVM and > file services with Winblows servers on top of them "because they have to have windows"). > > The Buresr, whom I do have some sympathy for, given the amount of crap he's been told, has made the decision that > Linux is 'too risky', after consulting other bursers on some network of bursers (god knows) and being advised that > "Linux is no good in an education environment, can't get staff, no-one uses it except a few 'out there risk takers'". > Of course the M$ suppliers are pushing the same line. > > How the hell do you combat this bull shit? > > I have to say I'm amazed that a school with so little money is happy to throw it away to M$ (despite the heavy > discounts they get for the licenses). > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > luv-main mailing list > luv-main(a)luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main >

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