January 2015 - luv-talk

East West Link - contacting the government
by Peter Ross 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

Hi all, Labor opposing East West Link - good news, at least for me. There is no contract signed yet - so all uncertainty claims are quite strange. It is up to the government in power to create certainty - by waiting with the contracts until after the election. The process is before the courts because the link did not go through a proper planning, assessment and consultation process yet. The lack of process created the uncertainty. So the government can correct it by honouring process. This would make it a decision made by a government which asked for a mandate from the electorate. Below my letter to Terry Mulder (terence.mulder(a)parliament.vic.gov.au) Maybe you would like to contact him too? Thanks Peter Dear Terry, the Labor decision to dump the East West Link is a good one for us in Melbourne. Please cancel the project if you care for Victoria. It may save hundred of millions or billions of dollars of claims when the project finally ends in the bin, as it should. The East West Link is not a properly planned project. I contacted you before about my concerns. Some of the events and claims are truly bizarre if you are familiar with the area as I am. I work in Kensington. I frequently use the bike track along the Mooney Ponds Creek you want to overshadow with another bunch of lanes. I also spend a lot of time waiting for and in trains from and to Craigieburn and Upfield which never go on time. It is not a surprise that the whole case is before the courts. The rush to lock it in resulted in a shoddy process which defies logic and did never satisfy requirements of proper consulting with the public. Even now, the design is still work in progress, and some of the "corrections" over time looked as professional as me designing a model train with my son. How can this being assessed? How can the community have a sufficient input in this process? How can you sign contracts with this uncertainty? It will be a liability for any future government and all Victorians. A tender process where you continue with one bidder only is another detail not making sense. I never do that if I want a good deal. You were elected with the Liberals claiming support for the Metro Rail Link. You did not advance the project. Instead it became another train wreck of "planning on the run". Please bring that back into action instead of tinkering with the East West Link if you want to do something for Victoria. Thank you Peter [contact details]

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Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi
by Petros Listig 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

From: "Steve Roylance" <roylance(a)corplink.com.au> > Still getting use to the new phone, touch screen is awkward and display > occasionally overflows. I have not seen this yet. Anyway, I wanted to contradict myself a bit. The camera was used a bit during the holidays and I took some nice pictures with it, while definitely not world class. It is a $99 phone, after all. Regards Peter

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Re: [luv-talk] Failure Notice
by Petros Listig 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

Hi David, From: "David E Payne" <spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au> > To: "Peter Ross" <Petros.Listig(a)fdrive.com.au> > Sent: Thursday, 1 January, 2015 2:19:52 AM > > Is this delivery Failure meant to DISCOURAGE spreading such rumours > about ZTE? I am pretty sure that ZTE hijacked the yahoo DNS;-) I leave the notice below to interpret. Was there a luv.asn.au DNS problem recently? To the original subject: >> "... And I love the feeling that Apple and Google (and >> associated darker forces) do not know everything about me. >> >> Which should be a non-negotiable requirement for any >> equipment but .. >> well, we live in times where the indecent is considered >> standard. > Yes it's unlikely the Chinese government would share their information > about you with Apple and Google. (Well, it seems to be a widely held > belief that the government owned ZTE is spying on users of their stuff. > Still, probably better to have the info about you split among rivals who > won't aggregate it.) The ability to _receive_ the information is less likely because I do not have a Chinese account which is syncing data and transfering data from my phone (as Google does from every Android phone - or Apple from every iPhone). The software is open source. It could be that the software was modified (I did not flush it yet and put a self-compiled Firefox OS on it), and there could be off-band communication using the proprietary drivers. >> " Recently I saw a jealous husband monitoring his >> (unfaithful, he suspects) >> wife via "Find a friend" app on an iPhone. " > > I once heard what I believe was a nearby portable, not > mobile, phone on a radio or TV (back when they were likely to be > analog). > The voice was of a wo man saying that if her husband knew he'd > kill her and I don't think she was speaking figuratively! Yes, these people exist, unfortunately. I do not think it matches "my" case. I left it with a remark which started some thinking, hopefully. During my holidays I grabbed "holiday reading" idly from the bookshelf, browsing through books I read decades earlier. One was Kurt Tucholsky's "Gripsholm Castle" written in the early 1930ies. There is a memorable quote about "the good cause": Oh ecstacy of the good and righteous crusades, you laxative of the immoral! With a cold stream of water I extinguished it, while I breathed out. I knew the mechanism of this lust: It's twice as dangerous because it has an ethical foundation; to torment in order to do a good work..., that's a very wide-spread ideal. (Translation by Alfred Wilke) Regards Peter > --- On Thu, 1/1/15, MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com> >> Subject: Failure Notice >> To: spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au >> Received: Thursday, 1 January, 2015, 1:48 AM >> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your >> message to the following address. >> >> <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>: >> No MX or A records for luv.asn.au >> >> --- Below this line is a copy of the message. >> >> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com >> with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 14:25:09 -0000 >> Received: from [98.138.100.113] by >> nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:09 -0000 >> Received: from [98.139.212.151] by >> tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> Received: from [98.139.215.251] by >> tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1064.mail.bf1.yahoo.com >> with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2014 14:22:06 -0000 >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 128145.35121.bm(a)omp1064.mail.bf1.yahoo.com >> Received: (qmail 44001 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2014 >> 14:22:06 -0000 >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; >> d=yahoo.com.au; s=s1024; t=1420035726; >> bh=6i2atCtUM9nCWjxCHM4CjLwuxlw/IKubThm8r2jf85M=; >> h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; >> b=JPghzTu4Ll4y8YqRugTFW2IO6Q7vTl0ZXn4vyAKdLe8iP95QWjgSEDQEzHXAmoEDzQT/BKRGMQ1s+Ebbbje/iuvpWvqPwav2niFqPtkSLBCEpR8KjMs0VbpARpjTCls4y/dgjUCX2ytgKOs7R4m9CYiy+48bcNeKXeishCuoB10= >> X-YMail-OSG: >> pRgWmZUVM1m6k6UNHmcdFy9EjE16D.v_BjhC68mMDSR.WP_ >> kLiitFx18fVUmJp87nWwYKLTywVlcFSdVn1IK5yKs7VJIhjrlq07ApuG4tTC >> ZCdR6baSk.Yq2Xvb.7ilfiHDU0i.hhCIGRjlO2R5GR62WoReeh6mFcBIsMKR >> Uihje5mITlMzcPZGaaQ_2PRY0cWEjUICXRXFZp.iiHJY5eodWsZP52HuU7nA >> fDvWZeLMntTxxVd4xzpAE5c9TgnRbxiIFey0uuJ8J0yFXjZUd9bfTq9wOAB5 >> B_vd3wwFONBtBKdGoqq14SwMC3pDRCQWanvsOJ97zH_zFYOu_wjPB0fM1VUK >> NBS7o_GsYWzLNUU5.mHHtKBqsjeFZAzqeC2osqvyHS.RMxonvm5ygVw6twpo >> aCqsPad1wHRnXFMtHC_iigzVPrgGvhcbh.IJeWyLUv3CEx2k.EYr2yKGKSB3 >> GQRmrHrKyYAdMI.1XidKTNHzowX8u4lbYoCxKduCHzdHaS4L5i1WONXBwpgR >> ZjGLEr2rTDLaiMeIEnTZEQtMLrB14McqYF90JuF9VrWTyt5NAY6YHhd7CMsQ >> mnIVV_YkaGODptcA- >> Received: from [202.45.117.50] by >> web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 >> 06:22:05 PST >> X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: >> 002.001,T24gVGh1LCAxOC8xMi8xNCwgUGV0ZXIgUm9zcyA8UGV0cm9zLkxpc3RpZ0BmZHJpdmUuY29tLmF1PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KIFN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbbHV2LXRhbGtdIEZpcmVmb3ggT1MgcGhvbmUgYXQgSkIgSGlmaQ0KIFRvOiBsdXYtdGFsa0BsdXYuYXNuLmF1DQogUmVjZWl2ZWQ6IFRodXJzZGF5LCAxOCBEZWNlbWJlciwgMjAxNCwgMTE6MzcgQU0NCiANCg0KU05JUCANCiANCiIuLi4gIEFuZCBJIGxvdmUgdGhlIGZlZWxpbmcgdGhhdCBBcHBsZSBhbmQgR29vZ2xlIChhbmQgYXNzb2NpYXRlZA0KIGRhcmtlcg0BMAEBAQE- >> X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/903 >> YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.740 >> Message-ID: <1420035725.99905.YahooMailBasic(a)web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 06:22:05 -0800 >> From: David E Payne <spyder.king(a)yahoo.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi >> To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au >> In-Reply-To: <32dfc7b80086f5d33535276bce1caa30.squirrel(a)mailbox.alumni.tu-berlin.de> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> On Thu, 18/12/14, Peter Ross <Petros.Listig(a)fdrive.com.au> >> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [luv-talk] Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi >> To: luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au >> Received: Thursday, 18 December, 2014, 11:37 AM >> =20 >>

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Firefox OS phone at JB Hifi
by dan062＠yahoo.com.au 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

>From ZTE au website, JB HiFi selling Firefox OS phones. (http://www.zte.com.au/devices/Firefox_OpenC.htm) Any one seen them and any experience? Daniel. -- dan062(a)yahoo.com.au <dan062(a)yahoo.com.au>

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

Hi, Thanks Sam, On 2/01/2015 10:19 AM, Sam Varghese wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 03:57:51AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it >> delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new >> ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to >> worry about that. >> >> Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. > > <snip> > > I'm not sure why you had to jump through so many hoops. My son bought a OnePlus > One [1] from a Chinese outlet [2] and paid with an Australian-issued credit card. It > took about five weeks to arrive and the cost, including shipping, was $415.00. There were a number of reasons for solving this problem the way I did; one being that OnePlus don't deliver directly to AU and two, the new ShopMate service had just launched and I wanted to try it and three .... I didn't have (and still don't) any first hand experience with other suppliers for this situation and therefore trust was an issue [read consideration]. I know that people can buy OnePlus One's via eBay too, but people also get burned off eBay -- even if PayPal helps [and I understand it can go both ways here] them sort out some issues, it can be a huge hassle if things go wrong. > It would be relevant to mention one thing here - if any phones (indeed anything > containing a battery) need to be returned because they are defective, then you > are forced to send it back through a company called Pack And Send because > neither Australia Post nor any courier company will accept them. And then > the company will usually ask you to pay the customs duty for collecting the > device at their end. This could well end up making the device as costly as it is in > Australia. Okay, but AU didn't have any trouble shipping my phone from US to AU regardless of it having a non-removable LiPo battery in it. Cheers A.

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Russell Coker 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

On Fri, 2 Jan 2015, Sam Varghese <sam(a)gnubies.com> wrote: > It would be relevant to mention one thing here - if any phones (indeed > anything containing a battery) need to be returned because they are > defective, then you are forced to send it back through a company called > Pack And Send because neither Australia Post nor any courier company will > accept them. And then Are you talking about delivery within Australia or to another country? https://www.temando.com/ When my wife's Nexus 5 broke Temando collected it. Unless something has changed in the last 6 months Pack and Send aren't the only one to do that. Note that I can't recommend Temando as they seem to have a problem with knocking on doors. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

On 2/01/2015 10:19 AM, Sam Varghese wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 03:57:51AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it >> delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new >> ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to >> worry about that. >> >> >> Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. > > <snip> > > I'm not sure why you had to jump through so many hoops. My son bought a OnePlus > One [1] from a Chinese outlet [2] and paid with an Australian-issued credit card. It > took about five weeks to arrive and the cost, including shipping, was $415.00. btw I did use an AU credit card, it was still a prepaid one though. Okay, how can you buy from the US store of NewEgg ? They won't accept a PayPal address if it is not US, then if you make a "gift" address, then they still want a US phone number -- AU PayPal site won't let you have an address OR phone number that is not in AU (more pain). Paying with a prepaid AU credit card fails with NewEgg NewEgg is extremely painful. One item they had in the US store was $US50 (approx), then there was a coupon to bring it down to $US30 (approx). The EXACT same item on their "global" AU site is $AUD122 and converted $US99. If I could have bought the item at $US30 and gotten it with other goods, then it would have been great to send it to the US address I have with ShopMate ... but NewEgg cannot or will not accept payment with my AU prepaid credit card. So much pain. :( A.

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OnePlus One -- invitations....
by Andrew McGlashan 01 Jan '15

01 Jan '15

Hi, I recently purchased a OnePlus One phone -- to do so, I had to get it delivered to a US address provided by Australia Post using their new ShopMate service. Warranty could be a hassle, hopefully I won't need to worry about that. Then I had to get it delivered to AU via ShopMate. My phone arrived a little slower than expected, but there were no troubles doing it this way. Purchased on the 21st November, 2014 -- delivered to US address on the 28th November and finally delivered to AU on the 15th December after seeing an expected time frame of 4th to 9th December. OnePlus people have now given me some limited time-frame invitations, they will expire in around 5 days. Product choice is specific to the exact same version that I purchased: "One - 64 GB Sandstone Black" At the time,of purchase, I paid around $AUD438 (after conversion) using PayPal and a prepaid credit card. The price is $US349 on their website plus a shipping and handling charge of $US14.34 for a total of $US363.34. Delivery by ShopMate was discounted (promo) and cost me $AUD40.23. I've got a US power adapter with the phone, but it charges with standard USB cables. Here are the phone details: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php NB: A new model is "rumoured", but the specs aren't much improved and actual details at gsmarena may not be correct for the new device. The main differences seem to be the inclusion of an FM radio and newer CPU/GPU ... you can see the differences here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6327&idPhone2=6902 Okay, now of those still with me, please let me know if you want an invite -- I'm not sure how I'll give them out, most importantly, I don't want them to expire; so let me know your interest. Cheers AndrewM

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