luv-talk July 2013

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Australian Computer Museum Society needs members

by Patrick Webster

Hello all, I posted this to the AusNOG list and someone suggested I cross post here as well... This is a once off email to notify you of the Australian Computer Museum Society Incorporated (ACMS). The ACMS is an Australian charity (donations are tax deductible) solely funded by membership and donations incorporated in the early 90's. The current President of ACMS is John Deane (of CSIRO / WiFi fame). The purpose of the Society is to preserve and maintain computer artefacts (particularly, but not limited to, Australian inventions), such as hardware, operation manuals and source code etc. Some years ago they provided a tape drive to try and restore Moon landing data! The ACMS has collections distributed throughout Australia, mostly in warehouses which can be viewed upon arrangement. The primary goal is to open a public exhibit to show things like disk platters that are the size of a coffee table and blocks of RAM housed in wood and Perspex. They have many working systems that are older than most of us. I wouldn't be surprised if many of you on this list used some of the artefacts in the 50s - 90s etc (pre Apple and Microsoft years). There are many ways you can help (and they do need help): * Join the public mailing list by sending a blank email to acms-list+subscribe(a)googlegroups.com. To post messages, email acms-list(a)googlegroups.com * Like on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/AustralianComputerMuseumSociety ) * Follow on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ACMS_org_au) * Join on LinkedIn ( http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Australian-Computer-Museum-Society-4511577?g… ) * Become a financial member $35/year tax deductible ( http://www.acms.org.au/become-a-member) * Make a tax deductible donation of any amount ( http://www.acms.org.au/contribute) * Volunteer by maintaining, donating or repairing artefacts. Engineers needed. * Forwarding to friends and associates who may also be interested in Australian computing history and preservation * Help with the new website (http://www.acms.org.au). Interested to hear your thoughts... I'm considering organising a kickstarter style crowdfunding project for them as well. Many other countries have computer heritage exhibits (UK and US are obvious)... Check out the website Timeline - .au should have one as well, before all is forgotten from living memory. Cheers, -Patrick

8 years, 11 months

OSDC 2013, Auckland, NZ, Call for Papers ends Monday

by jarich＠perltraining.com.au

Dear LUV committee/list owner, Thankyou for your support over the years for the Open Source Developers' Conference. We would love to invite your group members to submit to this year's call for presentations, and would be delighted if you'd pass this message on for us. ------------------------ The Open Source Developers' Conference is running in Auckland this year on 21st - 23rd October. Save this date now! Once again it'll be a conference not to be missed. The Call for Proposals is just about over, it closes next Monday 15th July. Make sure that you get your submission in as soon as possible so that you can be involved in this awesome event. We have had some high calibre submissions so far covering a diverse range of topics including * web server security * disaster management * documentation * anonymity * security in the Cloud. Areas we are currently lacking contributions include * development tools and Best Practices * open source hardware * identity management for the open internet * working with open source databases such as MySQL, MariaDB and PostgreSQL * mobile platforms and open source * the next great thing in Open Source focused languages We'd also love to hear about those companies who have managed to create Business solutions with Open Source tech. Open Source is a viable, cost-effective tool for Business solutions. We want to hear from those of you who have created your own solution using this technology. What were the advantages/disadvantages of using Open Source? How did your solution hold up in the long run? Visit the Call For Papers page http://osdc.org.nz/cfp/ for more information and get in touch! Please, also tell your friends! With thanks, Jacinta, on behalf of the 2013 OSDC Auckland team.

8 years, 11 months

Re: [luv-talk] Facebook.. Privacy? What privacy?

by Petros

From: "Jason White" <jason(a)jasonjgw.net> > As I understand it from this discussion, > the current approach is to ask the user to grant all permissions > that might be > needed during installation, and then the app author can simply assume > throughout the code that security restrictions won't stand in the way of > the actual operations. There are still mystifying permission requests. E.g. the YouTube app: Camera - take pictures and videos Allows the app to take pictures and videos with the camera. This permission allows the app to use the camera at any time without your confirmation. I want to watch YouTube - not YouTube watching me! Why is nearly everyone asking for the permission to get the list of running applications, and the caller Ids of incoming calls? My solution is not using a smartphone at all - I don't consider the merging of phone and tablet as done in a reasonably safe way, and I don't like the idea of bugging my bedroom myself. If wanted, there would be practical simple solutions in place. E.g. a mechanical switch to connect microphone and camera to the system. Regards Peter

8 years, 11 months

Re: [luv-talk] Facebook.. Privacy? What privacy?

by Petros

From: "Russell Coker" <russell(a)coker.com.au> > Lots of apps get access to all the mass storage of the phone when they really > only need one of the following: > > 1) Access to store their own data (a chroot would do in this case, but it's > only one situation). > > 2) Access to one particular data store - the most common case being an > application which only needs access to photos. A chroot wouldn't work for > this as it's a fairly standard feature to store photos in two locations. > > 3) Access to particular files, EG you view a picture in the gallery app and > then say that you want to share it via a particular application. Well, if the app has its own container, the sharing could be creating a hardlink for the file in question. Containers could cover limited network access too. If you have one running a firewall and a web-proxy, you really know what's sent. Regards Peter

8 years, 12 months

Re: [luv-talk] Facebook.. Privacy? What privacy?

by Petros

Quoting"Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck(a)gmail.com> > Robin Humble wrote: >> or simpler, just don't install the facebook app! > > The last time I gave a full-on privacy rant to a bunch of normal > people, they looked at me and went "so what do we do?" And I said > "well a simple, easy and effective start is to boycott facebook." > Then there was an awkward silence and you could see them thinking > "facebook is worth more than my privacy." With Android we are back to Windows 98 if it comes to controlling the machine. We don't know what's there, and the system does not have usable security mechanisms. Well, Android is a Linux kernel.. Would be good to have a kernel which is running Linux containers, or Xen, and then you can install a "Facebook container" which gets access to the system as you wish. It is always better to start with a clean sandbox first and then open as you like, instead of closing holes everywhere. Regards Peter

8 years, 12 months

Scratch, Snap! (BYOB 4.0) on Raspberry Pi and Android

by Rodney Brown

Alec mentioned Scratch and quickly demo-ed it on Raspberry Pi in his talk at the meeting. At LCA they mentioned that they're interested in optimizing Squeak, the underlying Smalltalk implementation for ARM for speeding up scratch on the Raspberry PI. The bug report is http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=12522 A google summer of code link for bootstrapping the Squeak JIT for ARM, I think all in Smalltalk. http://gsoc2012.esug.org/projects/arm-jitter Squeak underlies Etoys too. Looking at the Scratch website http://scratch.mit.edu/help/faq/ , the new Scratch 2.0 version will run in browsers with Adobe Flash 10.2. Will that run on the Pi? I'd guess not. http://byob.berkeley.edu/ Snap! (Build Your Own Blocks) 4.0 derived from Scratch has also moved off Squeak, but is implemented in Javascript. It ran for me in Firefox 22.0 on Ubuntu and Chrome and loaded at least in a colleagues Android phone. If it works ok in the browser on Raspberry Pi and Android tablets it would be good to demo at Software Freedom Day. Anyone want to give Snap! a try on a Pi or a tablet?

8 years, 12 months

Re: [luv-talk] luv-talk] Facebook.. Privacy? What privacy?

by Petros

From: "Jason White" <jason(a)jasonjgw.net> > Yes, exactly. Probably the closest analogue in (non-Android) Linux > installations is PolicyKit under Gnome, and I'm not sure how that works in > this regard. I find Capsicum interesting. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/pdfs/201305-temporal-practi… Instead of giving all permissions to a whole application, you separate it in modules that get certain privileges when needed. Of course it is up to a programmer to use it - and there are companies that don't have any interest in that. Regards Peter

8 years, 12 months

Re: [luv-talk] what's a good GUI MUA?.....digression

by Rohan McLeod

Chris Samuel wrote: > Given that "innovation" in this field has led me to also look to > migrate away from Kontact & Kmail2 after many years of happy use I'm > considering moving to Thunderbird at home too. I've been using TB at > work for ages (because I can use it with Lightning and Davmail to > access the Uni exchange calendar system). All the best, Chris Given the quality of innovation in many fields these days ; I often request the Luddite option (any down-grades available ?) ..... secretly hoping many of the more mediocre 'innovators', might contract to a point and drop out of the continuum; whilst any remaining .......... .....fall away :- ) regards Rohan McLeod

9 years

Windows work

by Russell Coker

Is anyone here interested in doing paid Windows desktop support for a home user? It will probably involve some use of audio programs for recording a guitar in addition to general desktop stuff. Contact me off-list if you are interested. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

9 years

Transcription - mechanical Turk?

by Tim Josling

I would like to get various youtube channels transcribed so I can access the content without the tedium of slowly listening to the words one by one. So it occurred to me that I could get them transcribed for a reasonably price using Amazon's mechanical turk. Alternatives: * Youtube does give a transcript but it is very rough * With html5 you can speed up the youtube videos but this does not work on my tablet (Android) Has anyone used mechanical turk? Do they have any suggestions of hints? Alternatives? Specific issues: How do I ensure quality work? I am happy to pay for this but not for shoddy work. My task would be something like: Provide a transcript for X videos, cleaning up text into proper sentences and correct words.. You can can the youtube transcripts but they need to be fixed up. Tim Josling

9 years

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