I haven't been yet but just noticed that the 2 Fridays left in August are by far the cheapest ($10) time to go. However it may be worth paying more to go when it's less busy.
Some of the talks are free, eg. http://www.acmi.net.au/game_masters_curator_talks_arcade.aspx
Some talks are not free, eg. tonight's
Re:Play
Someone Else's Skin
Tue 21 Aug 2012, 7pm
Location Studio 1
Admission Full $15 Concession $12 ACMI Member $11
Dav(e/id/o/y)
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From: thelionroars <thelionroars1337(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [luv-talk] Game Masters Exhibition at ACMI
To: "luv-talk" <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>
Received: Sunday, 12 August, 2012, 6:05 PM
Has anyone else been to the game masters exhibition at ACMI? I really enjoyed it. The exhibition has been organised around some of the pioneers and greats of video game creation. There are 125 playable games from the old Donkey Kong and other coin ops to modern console and mobile platforms. There is about an hour's worth of interview footage as well scattered around. Well worth a visit :)
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That someone chose to kill himself leaving his wife & kids grieving is no joke.
But I wonder if the way he chose to die was influenced by his direction of the infamous Apple Macintosh "Lemmings" ad aired during the USA Superbowl a year after his brother's "1984" ad.
If it hasn't happened yet, I'm expecting a media storm of misuse of the word "ironic" when the thematic connection is made.
Dav(e/id/o/y)
> "Tell Abbott and Gillard: don't punish refugees in my name"
Can someone point me at a coherent explanation and analysis of an
alternative policy? I have searched in vain. The ALP searched high and
low for something better and failed to find it. If they could have found
something better than reverting to the hated Howard policy I am sure
they would have taken it.
I don't mean platitudes a la the Green's web site which basically says
"be kind to refugees" & "Labor and Liberal are mean".
I mean:
a) What measures do we take in regard to people showing up? Do we try to
inhibit this at all? Do we monitor arrivals? Based on the policy, how
many people will show up and what would the cost and consequences be?
What would the monitoring cost? What would be the numbers of boat people
who arrive and how many would likely die at sea per annum?
b) What do we do with the people who show up? Bearing in mind some will
be refugees and others will be economic migrants, and others will be
criminals. Do we allow anyone who arrives to stay? If not, how do we
force the others to stay? Do we assess people, and what do we do with
them in the meantime? What do we do with people we decide we don't want
to allow to stay?
How many people are likely to be in each category and what is the likely
cost and impact?
c) How many of the tens of millions of people in refugee status around
the world will come to Australia. Will the policy imply an increase in
overall immigration? Should other components be cut to compensate? What
would be the economic, environmental, and social impacts of this change
on current residents of Australia?
d) What is the health, mental health and educational and vocational
status of people who are likely to take advantage of the proposed
system? What sort of citizens have refugees or other unscheduled
arrivals made historically? Did this depend on our screening processes?
What will be the economic and social impact?
I don't want to provoke an argument about this. I would just like to
know has someone actually thought through the implications of
alternative policies.
Nor do I mean to diminish the terrible plight of refugees and other
impoverished people around the world. Personally my gut feel is we
should quadruple the refugee quota but try to discourage people from
arriving via dangerous boat journeys. I doubt our willingness and even
our ability to take all of the tens of millions of refugees from around
the world.
Politicians are notorious for ignoring the second-order effects of their
policies. Some material on second-order effects at this link
http://infoproc.blogspot.com.au/2008/03/charlie-munger-ricardo-and-finance.…
Tim Josling
Hi Tim,
Did you see the links I posted? Eliminating the welfare state is the
alternative, otherwise immigration must be controlled by some means or
other. That's the fundamental point.
So if we accept there is going to be a welfare state, it becomes a
question of how to achieve effective immigration control.
It seems to me that Temporary Protection Visas would be the most effective
measure. I believe they are now being reintroduced as of last week. The
wikipedia page for TPVs is not too bad if you are unfamiliar with them and
the reasons why Labor removed them.
Cheers,
Alex
On 18/08/2012 10:44 PM, "tim josling" <tej(a)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:47:51 +1000
> From: Rohan McLeod <rhn(a)jeack.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [luv-talk] What rights do refugees have under the 1951
> convention?
> Cc: luv-talk <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>
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> Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, tim josling<tej(a)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
> .......s...
Yes. Thank you Rohan.
All I am asking for is "Here is my proposed policy, and here is the
evidence I have seriously thought through the consequences, including
indirect consequences".
Not "It is obvious that accepting anyone who shows up is the RIGHT THING
TO DO and therefore the consequences must be OK".
Not "Here is evidence Tony Abbott is a hypocrite and a liar!!!!!!!!!!".
I am 57 years old. I am well aware that the vast majority of politicians
are talented and experienced liars and thieves.
Russel Coker said: "As previous analysis on this list has shown the cost
would be less than the current policy no matter what you do." Can you
point me at this "previous analysis"? I could not readily find it. As I
said in my first post I did search in vain for evidence of a
well-thought out alternative policy.
As regards immigration as a solution to the so-called demographic time
bomb, the studies I have seen suggest that the level of immigration
required to substantially change this situation are extremely high and
is not in prospect. Our current policies based on paying pensions using
high population growth are basically a Ponzi scheme that must come to an
end.
I included the material by Charlie Munger as an *example* of second
order effects. [Munger has made billions of dollars by understanding
them. Whatever you might say about him, he is not silly and he is a lot
smarted than most of the people on this list but that is not relevant to
the issue of refugees].
Tim Josling
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People who advocate that 'Australia' should help refugees are also playing
politics. They are making themselves look humanitarian when in actual fact
all they are doing is declaring how other people's money should be spent.
If they really wanted to help refugees they should do something practical
rather than complain that other people aren't doing enough.
On 15/08/2012 10:17 AM, "Jason White" <jason(a)jasonjgw.net> wrote:
Peter Ross <Peter.Ross(a)bogen.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> I guess there are many decent people here, as ...
There are, including people who support and advocate publicly for the rights
and interests of refugees.
>
> It is just time to get rid of politicians who continue to kick powerless
> people as asylum se...
I would characterize it as playing politics with the lives of the most
vulnerable. The problem with processing asylum claims outside the migration
zone is that the applicants have no access to judicial review of decisions
that may be made against them. Immigration officers sometimes make serious
errors, which can only be corrected if there is a court with jurisdiction to
decide the cases. The grounds for judicial review of administrative
decisions
are confined to matters of law; the facts can't be directly contested in
court, and, to avoid a misconception, courts don't entertain frivolous
claims.
So the result of bad policy is that claims are evaluated in circumstances in
which there is no judicial oversight of administrative decisions.
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http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/battle-of-the-smartphones-
iphone-4s-v-galaxy-s-iii-20120808-23sz9.html
The above seems quite impressive. I've been waiting for someone to release a
phone that can do video and still pictures at the same time and the ability to
take 20 pictures automatically and then present the best 8 to the user seems
to have a lot of potential if implemented properly. 4.8" is a decent size,
but I'd rather have the Galaxy Note 2.
Also it's nice to see Android phones kicking Apple's butt. Android isn't a
great open platform, but it's a lot better than iOS.
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Amiga User Group of Victoria is having a fund-raising auction 3pm, Sunday 19th August, Wadham House, Mount Waverley which is just North of the local library just North of the railway station. (Part of their meeting which starts at 2pm). $5 fee if you want to SELL something OR $2 to visit (or buy) only.
http://aug.org.au/
> From: Ben McGinnes <ben(a)adversary.org>
> To: luv-talk <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:35:25 +1000
> Subject: [luv-talk] National Security petition
> Hello,
> As some of you know, I've been holed up working on a
> submission to the PJCIS for the National Security Legislation Inquiry.
>
> While most of you have neither the time, nor the inclination to do the
> same, can you at least sign this petition about it?
>
> http://pirateparty.org.au/natsecinquiry-petition/
>
> For the quick and nasty overview, look at these short fliers:
>
> http://pirateparty.org.au/media/promotional/natsecinquiry_poster.png
> http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/sites/default/files/natsecinquiry.pdf
>
> For slightly longer news articles, read these:
>
> http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/07/10/government-unveils-huge-wishlist-of-new…
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/07/australian-government-moves-expand-su…
> http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/07/23/hypothetical-news-from-a-national-secur…
>
> Even more info is available here:
>
> http://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/National_Security_Inquiry
>
> My more in depth reading of the government proposals indicate that it
> will easily be possible for the powers that be to spy on anyone or
> criminalise them, regardless of whether or not they've actually
> committed any crimes (it would easily be possible to send anyone to
> jail). It's actually quite hideous, which is why I'm breaking with my
> normal policy of not sending things like this to everyone I know.
>
> There are some rather nasty aspects of this which should definitely be
> of concern to LUV members. Like the sections making failure to assist
> in decryption of data crime, being able to modify or delete data on a
> system and use of third party systems and networks to access a system
> targeted by a warrant.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
Ben, thanks for taking the time to author a submission to the enquiry
and for forwarding on these links.
As you say many of us don't have the inclination or the time to look
deeply into issues like this that seem at first glance not to have a
large impact on our day to day lives.
Hopefully this will prove the impetus some of us need to bring these
issues to a wider audience.
Cheers
Tim Hamilton
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On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 14:08 +1000, luv-talk-request(a)lists.luv.asn.au
wrote:
> I am sick of this "boat people drama" going on for 10 years. It is
> the
> meanest, nastiest debate I came across so far in a democratic society.
>
>
Agree.
I think Julia Gillard has realised that most people feel this way and so
she is now moving to close the issue down by basically reimplementing
the Howard Government's policy, which Labor dismantled on gaining
office.
Tony Abbott has signalled the opposition will support the needed
legislation.
One good thing to come out of this is that our refugee quota will be
increased, though not as much as I would like. (There are about
10,000,000 refugees around the world so it is not realistic to take them
all here in Oz).
Tim Josling