May 2012 - luv-talk - example.com

iodine
by Russell Coker 23 May '12

23 May '12

I'm currently completing a survey for someone's psychology research. One of the questions is "I would never try to get away with using pay-for-use WiFi Internet access if I hadn't actually paid for it". I've done more than a few surveys and it's the first time I've seen a question like that! IP over DNS works almost everywhere and the "iodine" implementation while a little clunky works well. It also gives you more than 20 minutes at McDonalds. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Apt or Synaptic output as an input script?
by Carl Turney 07 May '12

07 May '12

Hi All, This the best forum for such a question? I'm using Ubuntu Lucid (until July, when I'll go over to Precise). Wondering if there's any sort of terminal command parameter for apt, or menu option in Synaptic, where I can get a dump or list of every package currently installed in my laptop Lucid system? But wait, there's more... I want to =use= this list to "synchronise" with my desktop Lucid, which has been in storage for 9 months. i.e. I want to use the output of my laptop to tell apt or Synaptic to install all those programs not already on the desktop. There will be some already installed, obviously. I'd update all packages on both systems first. This is a potential time-saver, compared to doing it manually. Have searched and researched, but can't figure it out. Thanks, Carl Turney Melbourne Mobile 0427 024 735

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"Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy" on ABC1 tv 9:30 TONIGHT
by David E Payne 06 May '12

06 May '12

As with it's subject, the few reviews I've read of this doco cover a wide spectrum of opinions. Apparently the aim was to show the Haight-Ashbury based hippy/freaks movement influenced nearby Silicon Valley's push to spread computers from big Govt, military & corporations into homes & small businesses. Perhaps comparable to John Markoff's book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Dormouse_Said & the doco made of that. (see also http://www.thefix.com/content/steve-jobs-think-different-and-lsd-9143 ) I'm not impressed by the newspaper description that refers yet again to Apple supposedly having started in a garage. It takes real effort to be less accurate than Wikipedia but our glorious professional mass-media do it every-time on this subject!

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Any radio hams or AV techs in LUV?
by Carl Turney 04 May '12

04 May '12

Hi All, My apologies if this is too off-topic. Just back after 5 years overseas, and new to the whole Freeview Australia phenomenon. Wondering if any LUV members are also ham radio enthusiasts, or well into audio-visual issues? I'd like to chat off-list about such things as endorsed vs unendorsed set top boxes, satellite rather than terrestrial receivers, limitations on saving broadcasts, transferring data to (Linux) computers, receiving other channels from the same (or other) satellites (e.g. Al Jazeera, BBC). Thank you, Carl Turney Mobile 0427 024 735

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Re: [luv-talk] Slavery vs Marriage Equality
by Russell Coker 02 May '12

02 May '12

On Tue, 1 May 2012, Michael Scott <luv(a)inoz.net> wrote: > Did you see any of the parts of the Bible which quote Jesus saying that the > Pharisees, in their use of the "law of Moses" were wrong? > > The Bible wasn't pro-slavery... it simply said that slaves should respect > their masters. It also said that the people who are least will be the > greatest in the kingdom of heaven... as an extension of that. It portrayed > Jesus as a servant. Slavery was a fact in first century Israel. In Australia I think that all churches would support every slave who testifies against their owner in court. I think that a reasonable interpretation of our laws regarding self-defense would also allow a slave to kill their owner in order to escape. The majority of Australia's population declare themselves to be Christian, that means most police, most judges, and most members of juries. None of them seem to think that slaves should respect their owners. Advocating that slaves respect their owners IS advocating slavery. > Russell, if you want to come out and quote articles, and tell people that > they "don't understand Christianity" as you told me, maybe you should do > some reading yourself, and understand what you are talking about. You proved Dan Savage's point. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Slavery vs Marriage Equality
by Russell Coker 01 May '12

01 May '12

http://www.care2.com/causes/dan-savage-says-bible-is-pro-slavery-right-goes- ballistic.html Interesting article about Dan Savage's talk about how most people have been ignoring the pro-slavery pats of the Bible for 50+ years so there's no reason to pay attention to the anti-gay parts. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Re: [luv-talk] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet
by Tim Connors 01 May '12

01 May '12

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Jason White wrote: > Much Linux software is keyboard intensive, as is the act of writing (whether > it be text or code). Devices need to continue to be available that can > effectively support work that goes beyond point-and-select or typing short > messages into an on-screen keyboard. I have a smartphone. It's new and shiny, and I have no idea what to do with it. What problem is it trying to solve? I also don't get twitter. Is twitter still limited to 140chars despite everyone having smartphones that really really ought not be limited by silly SMS constraints, because it's too bloody difficult to type into those silly little onscreen keyboards? Bah, humbug. -- Tim Connors

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Wikipedia, volunteer, drug law reform
by Carl Turney 01 May '12

01 May '12

Hi All, Lev suggested I post this request in this Talk mailing list... Have you authored any Wikipedia pages from scratch, or edited a number of Wikipedia pages, regardless of the subject? Do you think that the War On Drugs is wrong, and that prohibition causes more problems than it solves? Are you willing to volunteer a bit of your time to help out =responsible=and=respectable= Australian drug law reform organisations that don't yet have a Wikipedia entry? (e.g. Groups for parliamentarians, doctors, law enforcement professionals, scientific researchers, and family & friends of users.) If yes, please contact me directly, off-list to find out more. If not, please forward this on to someone you know who may be suitable. We can limit it to one page/group per volunteer, if you are short on time. NOTE: BEING WILLING TO HELP THESE GROUPS OUT IN NO WAY STATES THAT YOU ARE (OR HAVE BEEN) A RECREATIONAL DRUG USER YOURSELF. Thanks =very= much, Carl Turney Bottom-line Ownership and Management Services www.boms.com.au Belgrave, Melbourne Home: (shared with others) 9752 5420 Mobile: 0427 024 735 Email: carl(a)boms.com.au

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