http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri... A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000. What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become! I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence. BW
Hi Brent – Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof? Regards Slav From: luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] On Behalf Of Brent Wallis Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM To: luv-talk Subject: [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri... A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000. What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become! I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence. BW This e-mail and any attachments to it (the "Communication") is, unless otherwise stated, confidential, may contain copyright material and is for the use only of the intended recipient. If you receive the Communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete the Communication and the return e-mail, and do not read, copy, retransmit or otherwise deal with it. Any views expressed in the Communication are those of the individual sender only, unless expressly stated to be those of Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited ABN 11 005 357 522, or any of its related entities including ANZ Bank New Zealand Limited (together "ANZ"). ANZ does not accept liability in connection with the integrity of or errors in the Communication, computer virus, data corruption, interference or delay arising from or in respect of the Communication.
Understand....:-) There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand. Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it...
From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95.. What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share. BW On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) <slav.pidgorny@anz.com
wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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A few may apply to you: Go in early Uber it Take a taxi Car Pool and maybe: Catch a bus And, yes, it takes ca. 1.5 hours to cycle from a house in Knoxfield to the CBD. It takes around the same time by car, and is faster than bus+train. That's my own experience ca. 2009/2010. Lilydale is a few more miles.. yes. I made a lifestyle choice and rent near the city. I cannot afford to buy there either, but I can rent. Gives me a 25 minutes bike ride every day. Don't call me latte sipping. I prefer a long black. Anyway, the bloody <expletive here> are the ones who do not live like me. On the more serious side: Why do Melbournians put up with a public transport system which reminds me of the 80ies in East Germany? Why don't you scream louder that you deserve better? Do you keep elect governments as long as they promise you more tax cuts? And budget deficits are bad? Regards Peter On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand....:-)
There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand.
Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it... From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95..
What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share.
BW
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) < slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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Gday, On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> wrote:
A few may apply to you:
Go in early
So you would do that?
Uber it
Illegal and screws the poor bastards that work cabs until the legal issues get resolved. Besides...if u understand Uber and their business you would also know that the rates would be way above taxi. Give me approx 400 AUD on the day and I will listen
Take a taxi
Lend me $130 bucks and yeah sure...
Car Pool
Maybe
and maybe:
Catch a bus
Same as the other bazillion poor bastards caught in this crap? Buses regularly by pass my place of work on Williamstown Road due to overload.... ...and they are under the control of a Socialist elite, a branch of your own Political Class...
And, yes, it takes ca. 1.5 hours to cycle from a house in Knoxfield to the CBD.
It takes around the same time by car, and is faster than bus+train.
That's my own experience ca. 2009/2010.
You selfish, elitist and monohumanist asshole! Just because u can does not mean everyone one else can....
Lilydale is a few more miles.. yes.
perhaps I only have one leg?....a few extra miles to you could mean much more to others. Selfish up your own bum ass u are.....
I made a lifestyle choice and rent near the city. I cannot afford to buy there either, but I can rent.
Your rent is 25% more than my mortgage... Pull your head out of the Greens elitist Bum and realise that your choice is not the majority choice. Your choice sucks for me... Your arrogant and selfish lifestyle does nothing for any human other than you.
Gives me a 25 minutes bike ride every day.
Don't call me latte sipping. I prefer a long black.
Anyway, the bloody <expletive here> are the ones who do not live like me.
Did you mean fucking dickheads that have no understanding of human empathy and collective improvement like you?
On the more serious side: Why do Melbournians put up with a public transport system which reminds me of the 80ies in East Germany? Why don't you scream louder that you deserve better?
Do you keep elect governments as long as they promise you more tax cuts? And budget deficits are bad?
Thats not serious...its just plain stupid and self centred on your part. Your an elitist, political class fuck wit with no other argument than one that wants to shore up your own small view of the world. Don't let me hold you up cos I reckon your busy painting banners for your Mosque demos this weekend. My mussie colleagues and best mates look forward to you attendance...their only comeback will be to look you in the eye, raise a LEFT hand with middle middle finger extended....and smile at your selfish bullshit in between prayers.
Regards Peter
Suggest you change your name to Penis....that suits more. Fuck u sideways.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand....:-)
There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand.
Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it... From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95..
What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share.
BW
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) < slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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Need to hi-light here as well that your "innocent bait" posts are anz.com sourced... But your dickhead posts are always from a personal account. One slip dude and your cactus! On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Gday,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> wrote:
A few may apply to you:
Go in early
So you would do that?
Uber it
Illegal and screws the poor bastards that work cabs until the legal issues get resolved. Besides...if u understand Uber and their business you would also know that the rates would be way above taxi. Give me approx 400 AUD on the day and I will listen
Take a taxi
Lend me $130 bucks and yeah sure...
Car Pool
Maybe
and maybe:
Catch a bus
Same as the other bazillion poor bastards caught in this crap? Buses regularly by pass my place of work on Williamstown Road due to overload.... ...and they are under the control of a Socialist elite, a branch of your own Political Class...
And, yes, it takes ca. 1.5 hours to cycle from a house in Knoxfield to the CBD.
It takes around the same time by car, and is faster than bus+train.
That's my own experience ca. 2009/2010.
You selfish, elitist and monohumanist asshole! Just because u can does not mean everyone one else can....
Lilydale is a few more miles.. yes.
perhaps I only have one leg?....a few extra miles to you could mean much more to others. Selfish up your own bum ass u are.....
I made a lifestyle choice and rent near the city. I cannot afford to buy there either, but I can rent.
Your rent is 25% more than my mortgage... Pull your head out of the Greens elitist Bum and realise that your choice is not the majority choice. Your choice sucks for me... Your arrogant and selfish lifestyle does nothing for any human other than you.
Gives me a 25 minutes bike ride every day.
Don't call me latte sipping. I prefer a long black.
Anyway, the bloody <expletive here> are the ones who do not live like me.
Did you mean fucking dickheads that have no understanding of human empathy and collective improvement like you?
On the more serious side: Why do Melbournians put up with a public transport system which reminds me of the 80ies in East Germany? Why don't you scream louder that you deserve better?
Do you keep elect governments as long as they promise you more tax cuts? And budget deficits are bad?
Thats not serious...its just plain stupid and self centred on your part. Your an elitist, political class fuck wit with no other argument than one that wants to shore up your own small view of the world.
Don't let me hold you up cos I reckon your busy painting banners for your Mosque demos this weekend.
My mussie colleagues and best mates look forward to you attendance...their only comeback will be to look you in the eye, raise a LEFT hand with middle middle finger extended....and smile at your selfish bullshit in between prayers.
Regards Peter
Suggest you change your name to Penis....that suits more.
Fuck u sideways.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand....:-)
There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand.
Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it... From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95..
What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share.
BW
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) < slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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Calm down. it's Friday. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Gday,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> wrote:
A few may apply to you:
Go in early
So you would do that?
Uber it
Illegal and screws the poor bastards that work cabs until the legal issues get resolved. Besides...if u understand Uber and their business you would also know that the rates would be way above taxi. Give me approx 400 AUD on the day and I will listen
Take a taxi
Lend me $130 bucks and yeah sure...
Car Pool
Maybe
and maybe:
Catch a bus
Same as the other bazillion poor bastards caught in this crap? Buses regularly by pass my place of work on Williamstown Road due to overload.... ...and they are under the control of a Socialist elite, a branch of your own Political Class...
And, yes, it takes ca. 1.5 hours to cycle from a house in Knoxfield to the CBD.
It takes around the same time by car, and is faster than bus+train.
That's my own experience ca. 2009/2010.
You selfish, elitist and monohumanist asshole! Just because u can does not mean everyone one else can....
Lilydale is a few more miles.. yes.
perhaps I only have one leg?....a few extra miles to you could mean much more to others. Selfish up your own bum ass u are.....
I made a lifestyle choice and rent near the city. I cannot afford to buy there either, but I can rent.
Your rent is 25% more than my mortgage... Pull your head out of the Greens elitist Bum and realise that your choice is not the majority choice. Your choice sucks for me... Your arrogant and selfish lifestyle does nothing for any human other than you.
Gives me a 25 minutes bike ride every day.
Don't call me latte sipping. I prefer a long black.
Anyway, the bloody <expletive here> are the ones who do not live like me.
Did you mean fucking dickheads that have no understanding of human empathy and collective improvement like you?
On the more serious side: Why do Melbournians put up with a public transport system which reminds me of the 80ies in East Germany? Why don't you scream louder that you deserve better?
Do you keep elect governments as long as they promise you more tax cuts? And budget deficits are bad?
Thats not serious...its just plain stupid and self centred on your part. Your an elitist, political class fuck wit with no other argument than one that wants to shore up your own small view of the world.
Don't let me hold you up cos I reckon your busy painting banners for your Mosque demos this weekend.
My mussie colleagues and best mates look forward to you attendance...their only comeback will be to look you in the eye, raise a LEFT hand with middle middle finger extended....and smile at your selfish bullshit in between prayers.
Regards Peter
Suggest you change your name to Penis....that suits more.
Fuck u sideways.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand....:-)
There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand.
Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it... From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95..
What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share.
BW
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) < slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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pffffft No way! You need to be held to account. As do others of your ilk... stand up or fuck off! On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> wrote:
Calm down. it's Friday.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Gday,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> wrote:
A few may apply to you:
Go in early
So you would do that?
Uber it
Illegal and screws the poor bastards that work cabs until the legal issues get resolved. Besides...if u understand Uber and their business you would also know that the rates would be way above taxi. Give me approx 400 AUD on the day and I will listen
Take a taxi
Lend me $130 bucks and yeah sure...
Car Pool
Maybe
and maybe:
Catch a bus
Same as the other bazillion poor bastards caught in this crap? Buses regularly by pass my place of work on Williamstown Road due to overload.... ...and they are under the control of a Socialist elite, a branch of your own Political Class...
And, yes, it takes ca. 1.5 hours to cycle from a house in Knoxfield to the CBD.
It takes around the same time by car, and is faster than bus+train.
That's my own experience ca. 2009/2010.
You selfish, elitist and monohumanist asshole! Just because u can does not mean everyone one else can....
Lilydale is a few more miles.. yes.
perhaps I only have one leg?....a few extra miles to you could mean much more to others. Selfish up your own bum ass u are.....
I made a lifestyle choice and rent near the city. I cannot afford to buy there either, but I can rent.
Your rent is 25% more than my mortgage... Pull your head out of the Greens elitist Bum and realise that your choice is not the majority choice. Your choice sucks for me... Your arrogant and selfish lifestyle does nothing for any human other than you.
Gives me a 25 minutes bike ride every day.
Don't call me latte sipping. I prefer a long black.
Anyway, the bloody <expletive here> are the ones who do not live like me.
Did you mean fucking dickheads that have no understanding of human empathy and collective improvement like you?
On the more serious side: Why do Melbournians put up with a public transport system which reminds me of the 80ies in East Germany? Why don't you scream louder that you deserve better?
Do you keep elect governments as long as they promise you more tax cuts? And budget deficits are bad?
Thats not serious...its just plain stupid and self centred on your part. Your an elitist, political class fuck wit with no other argument than one that wants to shore up your own small view of the world.
Don't let me hold you up cos I reckon your busy painting banners for your Mosque demos this weekend.
My mussie colleagues and best mates look forward to you attendance...their only comeback will be to look you in the eye, raise a LEFT hand with middle middle finger extended....and smile at your selfish bullshit in between prayers.
Regards Peter
Suggest you change your name to Penis....that suits more.
Fuck u sideways.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand....:-)
There were 2 posts: There is a class war happening in the country. Between the Political Class (...in this case Mainstream Media, Public Transport Employees...ie TWU Union, Business ...in this case Metro and Politicians... ) and the vast silent majority just want to get on with life and don't give a rats what these guys and their selfish standoffs and mudslinging "I hate Tony or Bill or Julia or Chris or whoever BS. On that front, the Age article was an epitome of ill conceived and selfish solutions based on the fact that you live within biking or walking distance of the CBD. Perhaps come and live out our way in the East for a few weeks and you will understand.
Systemd was the subject of the second: Again...there is a vast majority of System Admins that just deal with it and and all cases (I have regular contact with around 20 that manage around 400 Systems on my companies infra) have nothing bad to say about it... From my own experience, its just a learning curve... shitty for drone Admins ...they wish the world didn't change but in the end CS is a progressive science. The world has not ended for those that have upgraded to RHEL/Centos7 in my domain. Bellicose drivel and weepy "why does the world go too fast for me" Sysadmins with pages of reasons why we should all just stay where we are is an 80's attitude for me are a sign of a crap operator........ if you don't like Systemd then they have the power to fix it themselves.
Again...as has been my meme for some time... argument for the sake of it is pathetic especially in the world of Open Source....and it needs to be highlighted lest the dribbly wahwahs take over and we end up in a new Victorian self censored and neo conservative era.... and the result of that would be to throw out the progress made since '95..
What a waste of human energy. *spit* Need more? ;-) Feel free to share.
BW
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Pidgorny, Slav(GPM) < slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Hi Brent –
Sorry, I don’t completely understand whether you have problem with The Age, politicians, public transport employees, systemd, any combination thereof?
Regards
Slav
*From:* luv-talk [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@luv.asn.au] *On Behalf Of *Brent Wallis *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:19 PM *To:* luv-talk *Subject:* [luv-talk] The Propaganda Excuse Train
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-to-get-around-on-public-transport-stri...
A so called "independent always" news outlet forgetting that the vast majority of us don't have the costly advantage of living in the latte sipping circle around the CBD. Arrogant ignorance multiplied by 1000.
What a bunch of Elitist and Selfish Bastards our political class have become!
I am lucky to have an employer that understands... and a job that allows me to telecommute...but my youngest child is stuck on how to get to college in the CBD from Lilydale...on an important day that requires a presence.
BW
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Mate this is Luv Talk which means anything goes....remember? I am ready to take on the selfish and inhuman thought train....does that threaten you? On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@levlafayette.com> wrote:
I do hope that people in this discussion to adhere to the longstanding of principles of keeping conversations friendly and helpful.
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Oh Dear, Penis and Russell have decided to get real and talk tech on another thread.. I am such a bad person...:-( On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Mate this is Luv Talk which means anything goes....remember?
I am ready to take on the selfish and inhuman thought train....does that threaten you?
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@levlafayette.com> wrote:
I do hope that people in this discussion to adhere to the longstanding of principles of keeping conversations friendly and helpful.
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On Fri, August 14, 2015 10:53 pm, Brent Wallis wrote:
Mate this is Luv Talk which means anything goes....remember?
No, that is not the case. LUV-talk is anything goes in regards to *topic* i.e., "For LUV members who just want to chat to like minded people about anything at all." But Section 3 of the rules of the lists states: "Offensive language is disallowed on all of the LUV mailing lists." And Section 7 states "Members are expected to remain polite..." http://luv.asn.au/mailinglists.html I hope all participants in this discussion will abide the list's rules concerning language and behaviour. All the best, -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
Define offensive and polite. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@levlafayette.com> wrote:
On Fri, August 14, 2015 10:53 pm, Brent Wallis wrote:
Mate this is Luv Talk which means anything goes....remember?
No, that is not the case.
LUV-talk is anything goes in regards to *topic* i.e.,
"For LUV members who just want to chat to like minded people about anything at all."
But Section 3 of the rules of the lists states: "Offensive language is disallowed on all of the LUV mailing lists."
And Section 7 states "Members are expected to remain polite..."
http://luv.asn.au/mailinglists.html
I hope all participants in this discussion will abide the list's rules concerning language and behaviour.
All the best,
-- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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Mate you will lose here ...do not throw up stupid undefined bullshit... Your degrees will not help you hide a secret fascist. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
Define offensive and polite.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@levlafayette.com> wrote:
On Fri, August 14, 2015 10:53 pm, Brent Wallis wrote:
Mate this is Luv Talk which means anything goes....remember?
No, that is not the case.
LUV-talk is anything goes in regards to *topic* i.e.,
"For LUV members who just want to chat to like minded people about anything at all."
But Section 3 of the rules of the lists states: "Offensive language is disallowed on all of the LUV mailing lists."
And Section 7 states "Members are expected to remain polite..."
http://luv.asn.au/mailinglists.html
I hope all participants in this discussion will abide the list's rules concerning language and behaviour.
All the best,
-- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:35:11PM +1000, Brent Wallis wrote:
Mate you will lose here ...do not throw up stupid undefined bullshit... Your degrees will not help you hide a secret fascist.
i've kept out of this so far because it's really not fair to pick on the disabled. your resentful retard tantrum is starting to annoy me though - but probably nowhere near as annoyed as you get just trying to get by in a world that's far more complex and subtle than you're capable of grasping. I understand that this has to be very frustrating for you but, please, take your rage-filled incoherent babblings of poorly understood lunatic conspiracy theories and go home. you're not achieving anything but embarassing yourself. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
On Fri, August 14, 2015 11:27 pm, Brent Wallis wrote:
Define offensive and polite.
A particularly formalistic person would go for a dictionary. Most people would not require this. A sender with a moral sense would know for themselves whether they intended a message to be offensive or polite. If their intent was successful, the recipient would know about as well. In an organisational sense however, the elected committee has the authority to interpret such things. -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
Fuck me ...what a waste of intellect u r. Chicken shit secret far right Penis...sorry Peter, is too busy painting posters for the Mosque demos at this point ...so not much left for me here. Wish I could transport u back to a time when your views and attitudes really had an influence and were more than just intellectual masturbation... What's your PhD dissertation subject? BW On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@levlafayette.com> wrote:
On Fri, August 14, 2015 11:27 pm, Brent Wallis wrote:
Define offensive and polite.
A particularly formalistic person would go for a dictionary.
Most people would not require this. A sender with a moral sense would know for themselves whether they intended a message to be offensive or polite.
If their intent was successful, the recipient would know about as well.
In an organisational sense however, the elected committee has the authority to interpret such things.
-- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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