The most awesome personal organiser ever

I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them. I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure. The problem it seems is that thus far we have viewed personal organisation in parts. An application for tasks. An application for a calendar. An application for contacts. Perhaps an application for projects. All of these for iPoofs, another set for Windows, another set for penguins. Blah Blah Blah But this seems to suggest that my calendar exists separately from my tasks separate from my projects separate from my contacts. But all of it is intertwined all the time. It's at work, at home, on vacation, stationary, moving, eating, sleeping, humping. It's all interconnected. So I may have to write this one myself. But I'd prefer not to if anyone knows of it's existence or at least close to it. I want a personal organiser that interconnects all parts of personal organisation across all platforms. All of them! I want the same application to work on my linux desktop, windows desktop, apple laptop, android phone. And my fax machine god damn it. And I want it all Nimbostratus. Full cloud coverage. I type something into my desktop and it immediately syncs across everything. And if the cloud evaporates, I can still sync the devices by taking the phone and plugging it into my computer etc etc. And I want my contacts, notes, tasks, calendar, events, projects all interconnected and cross referenced with the ability to link to bloody anything else. Does this already exist? Or do I have to write the damn thing? Stay Frosty Scott

On 04/12/14 17:13, Scott Junner wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them.
I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure.
Did the organiser know that Mohammed and Cathy were dating? Did you? Yes. However your data is available to you it is up to you to make the relationships yourself. You cannot off load meaning to a device or service without expressly giving it that meaning - Goolge has circles, phones have contact groups, etc. - but YOU have to make them.
And I want my contacts, notes, tasks, calendar, events, projects all interconnected and cross referenced with the ability to link to bloody anything else.
There are many free and non free tools and services that will provide you with these channels but there is no OMLL (Organise My Life Language) that is common to them all. To maximize their benefit (without writing the digital wheel) you have to consume and learn about what is already out there. As someone who writes CRM with all of the stuff you mention my experience is that every user has to get on board with the product and learn how they can benefit from it. ....that being said. LG G3 phone. I just bought one and when I set it up and a pop-up said "Import from FB|LI|GMail|etc" I just said yes. I exported my iPhone contacts and sucked them in too. I have this mini tablet with a database on it and a whole whack of other benefits that I am liking. Sure I still have to organise myself but it is far closer to what you describe than any single app and as I learn its ways I am more and more impressed. Hope this helps! P

Including OpenVMS, Genera and ITS ? If it has a switch with an on position and an off position I want it to work with that.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Trent W. Buck <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Junner <scott.junner@gmail.com> writes:
I want a personal organiser that interconnects all parts of personal organisation across all platforms. All of them!
Including OpenVMS, Genera and ITS ?
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I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context. Jesse On 4 Dec 2014 14:13, "Scott Junner" <scott.junner@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them.
I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure.
The problem it seems is that thus far we have viewed personal organisation in parts. An application for tasks. An application for a calendar. An application for contacts. Perhaps an application for projects. All of these for iPoofs, another set for Windows, another set for penguins. Blah Blah Blah
But this seems to suggest that my calendar exists separately from my tasks separate from my projects separate from my contacts. But all of it is intertwined all the time. It's at work, at home, on vacation, stationary, moving, eating, sleeping, humping. It's all interconnected.
So I may have to write this one myself. But I'd prefer not to if anyone knows of it's existence or at least close to it.
I want a personal organiser that interconnects all parts of personal organisation across all platforms. All of them! I want the same application to work on my linux desktop, windows desktop, apple laptop, android phone. And my fax machine god damn it.
And I want it all Nimbostratus. Full cloud coverage. I type something into my desktop and it immediately syncs across everything. And if the cloud evaporates, I can still sync the devices by taking the phone and plugging it into my computer etc etc.
And I want my contacts, notes, tasks, calendar, events, projects all interconnected and cross referenced with the ability to link to bloody anything else.
Does this already exist? Or do I have to write the damn thing?
Stay Frosty Scott
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+1 Jesse. I just let it go, but I agree. On 9 December 2014 at 15:58, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context.
Jesse On 4 Dec 2014 14:13, "Scott Junner" <scott.junner@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them.
I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure.
The problem it seems is that thus far we have viewed personal organisation in parts. An application for tasks. An application for a calendar. An application for contacts. Perhaps an application for projects. All of these for iPoofs, another set for Windows, another set for penguins. Blah Blah Blah
But this seems to suggest that my calendar exists separately from my tasks separate from my projects separate from my contacts. But all of it is intertwined all the time. It's at work, at home, on vacation, stationary, moving, eating, sleeping, humping. It's all interconnected.
So I may have to write this one myself. But I'd prefer not to if anyone knows of it's existence or at least close to it.
I want a personal organiser that interconnects all parts of personal organisation across all platforms. All of them! I want the same application to work on my linux desktop, windows desktop, apple laptop, android phone. And my fax machine god damn it.
And I want it all Nimbostratus. Full cloud coverage. I type something into my desktop and it immediately syncs across everything. And if the cloud evaporates, I can still sync the devices by taking the phone and plugging it into my computer etc etc.
And I want my contacts, notes, tasks, calendar, events, projects all interconnected and cross referenced with the ability to link to bloody anything else.
Does this already exist? Or do I have to write the damn thing?
Stay Frosty Scott
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Has anyone checked out OwnCloud yet? best wishes Tony White On 9/12/2014 16:27, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote:
+1 Jesse. I just let it go, but I agree.
On 9 December 2014 at 15:58, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com <mailto:noodlepringle@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context.
Jesse
On 4 Dec 2014 14:13, "Scott Junner" <scott.junner@gmail.com <mailto:scott.junner@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them.
I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure.
The problem it seems is that thus far we have viewed personal organisation in parts. An application for tasks. An application for a calendar. An application for contacts. Perhaps an application for projects. All of these for iPoofs, another set for Windows, another set for penguins. Blah Blah Blah
But this seems to suggest that my calendar exists separately from my tasks separate from my projects separate from my contacts. But all of it is intertwined all the time. It's at work, at home, on vacation, stationary, moving, eating, sleeping, humping. It's all interconnected.
So I may have to write this one myself. But I'd prefer not to if anyone knows of it's existence or at least close to it.
I want a personal organiser that interconnects all parts of personal organisation across all platforms. All of them! I want the same application to work on my linux desktop, windows desktop, apple laptop, android phone. And my fax machine god damn it.
And I want it all Nimbostratus. Full cloud coverage. I type something into my desktop and it immediately syncs across everything. And if the cloud evaporates, I can still sync the devices by taking the phone and plugging it into my computer etc etc.
And I want my contacts, notes, tasks, calendar, events, projects all interconnected and cross referenced with the ability to link to bloody anything else.
Does this already exist? Or do I have to write the damn thing?
Stay Frosty Scott
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On 09/12/14 15:57, Tony White wrote:
Has anyone checked out OwnCloud yet?
We used it for quite a while (but changed servers so I haven't bothered to set it up yet). Pro's - Works well, easy to set up, accessible on a range of devices and OS's Con's - Windows client might have been a version out of sync with the others C:\ yum update <---- can never find this command so there was lots of polling and not much syncing Final Word: I am about to set OC up again and keep things up to date this time. Cheers Piers

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:58:22 PM Jesse Stevens wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context.
Agreed, no need for bigotry here. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context.
Yes it is. Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable. In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
On 4 Dec 2014 14:13, "Scott Junner" <scott.junner@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions, if you have them.
I want a personal organiser that is organised. Go figure.
The problem it seems is that thus far we have viewed personal organisation in parts. An application for tasks. An application for a calendar. An application for contacts. Perhaps an application for projects. All of these for iPoofs, another set for Windows, another set for penguins. Blah Blah Blah
-- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Hmmm,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context. Yes it is.
Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable.
In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG? Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM? LUV Talk anyway Bob

On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 08:41 +1100, Bob wrote:
Hmmm,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context. Yes it is.
Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable.
In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG?
Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM?
LUV Talk anyway
Bob
I agree re PM How many times has the "offensive" term been repeated in this group now. Side note that "offensive term" does have more than one meaning, I wonder why the only one that could be considered offensive is the one chosen ??? walter
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The advantage of making the statements on-list are the knock-on benefits. Others who are offended benefit from the visible debate and visible show of support. I would suggest it is advisable to make the decision about private vs on-list resolution of issues on a case by case basis. I would heartily suggest that gay people have had to put up with enough crap that goes well beyond the ordinary. I think it's perfectly fine to call people out on using terminology like poofs. It's not a matter of never saying anything offensive ever, it's a matter of respecting individuals and being basically respectful. We all share the same space here, so we need to find a way to get along. Free speech, well-used, is about being able to discuss issues freely and put forth bold ideas. I don't really think that casual slurs against minorities is what anyone had in mind as the central use case... On 10 December 2014 at 09:02, walter <walter@wideband.net.au> wrote:
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 08:41 +1100, Bob wrote:
Hmmm,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context. Yes it is.
Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable.
In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG?
Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM?
LUV Talk anyway
Bob
I agree re PM How many times has the "offensive" term been repeated in this group now.
Side note that "offensive term" does have more than one meaning, I wonder why the only one that could be considered offensive is the one chosen ???
walter
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On 10/12/14 08:41, Bob wrote:
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives.
Let me ask you a question, Bob. Do you agree that we want LUV to be welcoming to Linux users regardless of their (irrelevant to our interests) sexual orientation? If so, why should we condone the use of language which will make some people uncomfortable or worse?
Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'?
As a passionate advocate for free speech, let me point out that nobody has suggested that the government is trying to censor our mailing list. On the other hand, we do have rules and moderation for a reason - to maintain a welcoming tone of discussion. Enforcing that does not infringe on anyone's right to free speech, as they are welcome to take rudeness and worse to their own mailing lists and websites.
Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome
People who haven't accepted social changes are tired of getting called on their now inappropriate language. Unfortunately they'll have to deal with it. Regards, Andrew

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Bob <forums@wtaustralia.com> wrote:
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal
Free speech is about not being censored by the government. It does not require that other people use their resources to spread your speech. It also does not mean that your speech is exempt from criticism. You have the freedom to run your own mailing list and send whatever you want to it. The LUV committee determines what is appropriate for this list, we have banned someone from this list in the past for discriminating against a minority group and are ready to do so again in future.
responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of
This is a very common response from people who benefit from inequality in society. Slurs against minority groups are often associated with violence, using them in a public forum is an implicit threat of violence, when the people in authority don't appear to respond it sends a message that such behavior is acceptable and that people who are treated badly won't be supported - that is unacceptable. You are putting your feeling "tiresome" at a greater priority than the safety of other members. That is not acceptable.
action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG?
Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM?
No, it needs to be a matter of public record. When you behave badly in public there are public consequences. If you don't want a public response to your mail then don't send it to a public list. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Bob, As a gay man, I take offence to such a derogatory word as "poof" and being that it is no longer the dark ages, and this list is for communication about Linux/open source activities (not homophobia banter), then the comment is inappropriate. In fact, "free speech" is far to often used as an excuse to exclude people under the guise of "speaking freely". This is not madness, and its time people like yourself understood that someone you communicate with could well possibly be gay, and would be upset as the word " poof" is used. Jesse On 10 Dec 2014 04:42, "Bob" <forums@wtaustralia.com> wrote:
Hmmm,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context.
Yes it is.
Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable.
In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG?
Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM?
LUV Talk anyway
Bob
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Andrew Pam
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Bob
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Chris Samuel
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Jesse Stevens
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Piers Rowan
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Russell Coker
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Scott Junner
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Tennessee Leeuwenburg
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Tony White
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trentbuck@gmail.com
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walter