
On 23/05/16 18:09, Dan062 wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:59:52 +1000 David Zuccaro <david.zuccaro@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
How old is the battery? About 2.5 yrs old.
If you have been using the phone regularly on a daily basis the battery could be starting to short out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life

David Zuccaro via luv-talk wrote:
On 23/05/16 18:09, Dan062 wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:59:52 +1000 David Zuccaro <david.zuccaro@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
How old is the battery? About 2.5 yrs old.
If you have been using the phone regularly on a daily basis the battery could be starting to short out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life
Does Android let you see this data? $ grep ^ /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/{charge_full,charge_full_design} /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full:3533000 /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full_design:4030000 That shows that currently "100% charge" is 3.5kAh, but when it was new "100% charge" was 4.0kAh. i.e. it's capacity is down about one-eighth. The same workload will give me 17½h instead of 20h. $coworker had a much bigger difference - about 50% drop. PS: "kAh" might be completely wrong, I suck at units.

Did I catch that this model has a removable battery ? If it does and you have a multimeter available you could measure the voltage after a good time charging. Fresh offload cells should show about 4.2V. If less than 3.7V there is a problem... This is given as a guide - how many cells does your device have and how are they connected (series, parallel etc) regards Mike p.s. I did not know about w3m - but this will be a useful addition to my tools collection. http://www.meetup.com/Electronics-Club-Altona/ On 24/05/16 12:36, Trent W. Buck via luv-talk wrote:
David Zuccaro via luv-talk wrote:
On 23/05/16 18:09, Dan062 wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:59:52 +1000 David Zuccaro <david.zuccaro@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
How old is the battery? About 2.5 yrs old.
If you have been using the phone regularly on a daily basis the battery could be starting to short out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life Does Android let you see this data?
$ grep ^ /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/{charge_full,charge_full_design} /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full:3533000 /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full_design:4030000
That shows that currently "100% charge" is 3.5kAh, but when it was new "100% charge" was 4.0kAh.
i.e. it's capacity is down about one-eighth. The same workload will give me 17½h instead of 20h.
$coworker had a much bigger difference - about 50% drop.
PS: "kAh" might be completely wrong, I suck at units. _______________________________________________ luv-talk mailing list luv-talk@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-talk

Trent W. Buck via luv-talk wrote:
David Zuccaro via luv-talk wrote:
On 23/05/16 18:09, Dan062 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life
That shows that currently "100% charge" is 3.5kAh, but when it was new "100% charge" was 4.0kAh.
PS: "kAh" might be completely wrong, I suck at units. Trent: If the battery has a nominal voltage of ~ 4volts ; 3.5kAH represents (3.5) . (4) kAVH = 14 kwatt.hours !; 3.5k mA H seems more likely.!
You may not be alone though; it is my impression that 'units' and a foundational understanding, of what a measurement 'is' and what a measure ' is' are given little prominence outside of , courses like physics and engineering. Thus we have economists talking about, " a good set of numbers' and IT people with a poor idea of what the bytes at some; location are finally intended to represent; in a particular context, Beyond 'dimensional' balancing of equations ([M]^x,[L]^y,[T]^z must be the same on both sides !); I find it useful in unit conversions : eg [newtons] = [kilograms.m.sec^-2] to remember (for example); 1 kilogram = 2.2 lb implies 1= 2.2[ lb.kg^-1] and 1 m = 3.28 ft implies 1 = 3.28[ ft.m^-1] thus [newtons] = [kg.m.sec^-2].[2.2 lb.kg^-1].[ 3.28 ft.m^-1] = .(2.2).(3.28) [lb.ft.sec^-2] .............. (kg and m cancel) = .(7.21).[lb.ft.sec^-2] = 7.2 [1lbl] ( pronounced poundal] nb 1 lbf = 32 lbl; -obviously not much call for metric to imperial conversion these days; but the method is perfectly general ! regards Rohan McLeod
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