Charles Stross: Not an April Fool - on social media and aggregation

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2012/03/not-an-april-fool-1.html Not an April Fool By Charlie Stross There is an app, currently on the Apple app store as a free download, called Girls Around Me. A couple of days ago, computer journalist John Brownlee wrote an essay about it explaining why he found it disturbing. I'd like to propose that it is symptomatic of a really major side-effect of our forced acculturation into Facebook's broken model of human social interaction—a broken model shared by all the most successful social networks, by design—and that it is going to get much worse, until it kills people. Quite possibly in very large numbers. ... The Pythonisters might like (with an Arduino tie-in too) (Video) http://css.dzone.com/articles/militarizing-your-backyard Militarizing Your Backyard with Python: Computer Vision and the Squirrel Hordes

Hi, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Rodney Brown <rdbrown@pacific.net.au>wrote:
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2012/03/not-an-april-fool-1.html
Not an April Fool By Charlie Stross There is an app, currently on the Apple app store as a free download, called Girls Around Me.
Scary stuff....am proud to say that my son refused to continue a job to code a similar app not long ago. I reckon this is only the start! IMHO the whole social network meme is headed for a day of horrible reckoning. But lately, I have been deemed a philistine because I refuse to do any blog, linkdn, lamebook or google- time wasting....... Some in the global debate deem my attitude as being criminal.....~"What have I got to hide?" Would love to hear opinions on this. The pressure on our business to start a social networking communication stream is starting to make we wonder whether or not we can participate positively ....without giving away too much...???? BW

Brent Wallis wrote:
IMHO the whole social network meme is headed for a day of horrible reckoning. But lately, I have been deemed a philistine because I refuse to do any blog, linkdn, lamebook or google- time wasting....... Some in the global debate deem my attitude as being criminal.....~"What have I got to hide?"
Would love to hear opinions on this.
This seems to concern personal privacy.; in particular the right of individuals and orgnisations, to have access to personal information about individuals. Perhaps the burden of proof needs to be shifted to those wanting the information; " What is your need to know ?; regards Rohan McLeod

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis@gmail.com> wrote:
But lately, I have been deemed a philistine because I refuse to do any blog, linkdn, lamebook or google- time wasting.......
That's a lot of different things. Blogging is different because people explicitely publish things that they want to publish, there is no great pressure to publish more and everyone knows it's world-readable. LinkedIn is also presumably different because it's work based which means that whole categories of personal data are out of scope for it.
Some in the global debate deem my attitude as being criminal.....~"What have I got to hide?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kx05kU5gZg http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/pet_shop_boys/integral.html # If you've done nothing wrong # You've got nothing to fear # If you've something to hide # You shouldn't even be here The Pet Shop Boys sum it up well in "Integral". The video has QR codes for web sites related to freedom and privacy. It's surprising how well mobile phones can capture those QR codes given how quickly they flash on the screen and the limitations of Youtube resolution.
Would love to hear opinions on this. The pressure on our business to start a social networking communication stream is starting to make we wonder whether or not we can participate positively ....without giving away too much...????
When a business joins any social networking system (even Twitter) there is an immediate and significant pressure to solve many little problems that affect the loudest customers. So you should start it at 9AM on Monday when you have a week with little planned. Back to the original topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(social_network) I'm considering setting up Diaspora, not that I think it's a great thing or something that I want to. But it may help prevent people from doing things on Facebook etc which can only improve the situation. http://afreshcup.com/home/2009/4/28/a-painful-decision.html It's unfortunate that Diaspora is written in Ruby on Rails. I have limited time for learning new languages and I'm not going to waste any of it on THAT language. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
That's a lot of different things. Blogging is different because people explicitely publish things that they want to publish, there is no great pressure to publish more and everyone knows it's world-readable.
LinkedIn is also presumably different because it's work based which means that whole categories of personal data are out of scope for it.
I agree, and you can also do most of your publishing on your own server if you so decide, over which you have complete control. I am much more concerned about people who disclose considerable personal information online without appreciating how it can be combined and, potentially, misused, and sometimes without even realizing that it's available to the world. I learned a long time ago that everything one writes on an archived forum will persist for an indefinite period. My advice is: don't disclose anything that you would, on reflection, not wish to make completely public.
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Brent Wallis
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Jason White
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Rodney Brown
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Rohan McLeod
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Russell Coker