On 8/10/2012 12:43 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Andrew McGlashan
Rooting phones is over rated and it also adds
What risk does it add? When you have a rooted Android phone any app that
wants root access does it via a confirmation prompt that allows you to deny
is defined as "a little" then that's the case.
It's less than $71 when you take into account GST as most people would
have to, even if it doesn't apply to you Russell. Plus you do get the
second year of warranty from Samsung AU (for what it is really worth).
I really doubt that even here you would find that "most people" are registered
for GST and sending out GST invoices.
For those not able to claim GST, they _may_ be better off getting a
"free" or low cost phone as part of a mobile contract. In which case,
ACCC rulings have made it clear that a phone should be warranted for the
period of the said phone service contract.
even if you aren't going to do something to void
the warranty. As a
general rule self- insurance is always better value if you can afford
the worst case scenario - avoiding morale jeopardy alone assures that.
Perhaps you've been lucky, but using that logic, do you take out car
insurance at all, perhaps not? It might similarly payout to not take
car insurance.... but YMMV.
I can't afford the worst-case scenario of a car crash. The loss of my own
vehicle (given that 3d party is the legal minimum insurance) would be an
unreasonable burden. It wouldn't bankrupt me but it would change my work
plans for the next year or two to get things back on track. But I can just go
out and buy a new phone tomorrow.
I believe that 3rd party compulsory insurance ONLY applies (in Victoria)
to 3rd party personal; it is not compulsory to have any kind of property
insurance for a motor vehicle. The compulsory part is detailed as part
of your normal Victorian registration fees.
expensive for proper AU stock, that's the point. The non-AU
stock is cheap for a reason and it doesn't always work out, but sure,
sometimes it does work out.
So far the only phone that hasn't worked out for me and for all my relatives
who get me to manage their phones is one that probably had no warranty to
begin with and definitely had no warranty after I rooted it.
I don't think that rooting a phone should be grounds for dismissal of
your warranty; although many people claim that to be the case.
I think that theoretically it sometimes doesn't
work out in a way where the
extended warranty would help even though I haven't seen that happen. But in
practice I'm not getting any benefit in buying locally.
days. The difference comes when you need 4G
(LTE) now..... and that has
You previously cited the above URL for a phone which doesn't support LTE. It
appears to have EXACTLY the same network support as the Kogan phones.
Correct, I never said it had LTE support, I did say that would be
If you can cite an example of a Galaxy S3 with LTE
support on sale in
Australia then it would help your argument. Especially for Jason who
expressed interest in LTE.
It's irrelevant to the tangent that this conversation has taken.
Anyway in terms of 3G performance, the biggest problem
that I've found is
performance sucking in city areas which is presumably due to excessive
congestion. Presumably when LTE becomes popular this will be less of an issue
as the most demanding users will stop using 3G.
Yes, but I think the biggest reason is that voice has priority over data
and data will always just take up some extra cash for the telcos on top
of the monies they make from calls and exorbitantly priced SMS.
Early next year I will buy a new phone, maybe from
Kogan, and LTE support
won't matter to me. I am confident that 3G will do for me until early 2015.
Also note that whilst 2100MHz has been used by
Telstra for 3G, they will
(if they haven't already), only use that for LTE or Next-G. Other GSM
Wikipedia has no reference to Band 1 use in Australia. Can you cite a
reference for Telstra doing this? Presumably they will give significant
advance notice to allow phone manufacturers to develop products for use in
Australia, there would be no point building a network with no phones to use
Okay, well 1800MHz for today in AU for LTE -- add in other frequencies
when analogue TV frequencies are made available for mobile.
Here's a Telstra link:
So 2100MHz for 3G is out for Telstra customers now (as of the 31st
August 2012). So, it's 850 or nothing for Next-G services right now.