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Interesting, but will you notice the difference between ADSL and NBN over Wifi? So far I don't think I've ever seen anything approaching ADSL speeds over Wifi so I don't expect much difference. Also there's the issue of quota. As the current NBN plans have quotas that aren't much different to ADSL plans I don't expect that cafe to allow me to connect a laptop via GigE. If there was a cafe offering Ethernet access at speedds higher than ADSL2+ then I'd be very interested. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Senator Stephen Conroy Media Release - Melbourne's first NBN cafe officially opened. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012, 13:22:56 From: "Power, Rebekka" <Rebekka.Power@dbcde.gov.au> Melbourne's first NBN cafe officially opened Minister for Broadband, Communications, and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, and Member for Wills, Kelvin Thomson, have today officially opened Melbourne's first NBN cafe - Hungry Birds Cafe in Brunswick, Victoria. The cafe is attached to a building housing eight small businesses, all of which are connected to the NBN's fixed line high-speed broadband. "Not only does Hungry Birds provide great food and coffee, but its customers can also experience the speed of the NBN through free Wi-Fi," Senator Conroy said. "This is the first cafe in Melbourne connected to the NBN, but as the rollout gathers pace I expect cafes like this will become the norm. It is great to see a small business like Hungry Birds embrace the NBN." "Cafe culture is an essential part of Brunswick life. Melbournians love nothing better than getting together, eating food, drinking coffee, and increasingly getting online. The speed and reliability of the NBN complements this culture so well," Mr Thomson said. "Our customers are always our number one priority. That's why our cafe is focused on delivering quality - whether that is with our food and coffee; or the fast broadband provided by the NBN," said Hungry Birds owners Anne-Marie De-Boni and Ruth Quirk. To show the NBN's capabilities over Wi-Fi, Senator Conroy and Mr Thomson were part of a video conference with three NBN-enabled Digital Hubs in Brunswick; Townsville, Queensland; and Kiama, New South Wales. "The clarity and quality of the picture and audio provided via Hungry Bird's NBN Wi-Fi is something that can't be matched by the broadband available to most Australians today. This technology is essential for Australia's future," Senator Conroy said. Brunswick is one of the first places in Australia with access to the National Broadband Network. The NBN is now available in more than 2,700 homes and businesses in Brunswick, with NBN construction currently underway for another 14,500 premises in the area. Across Victoria, fibre construction will have started or be completed to 691,600 homes and businesses by mid-2015. Under the Gillard Government, all Australians, wherever they live, will be able to access fast, reliable and affordable broadband through the NBN. Date: Thursday 12 July 2012 Contact: Senator Conroy's Office: Adam Sims 0408 258 457 Mr Thomson's Office: Anthony Cianflone 0419 386 950 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

NBN claims to offer speeds up to 100Mb/sec - e.g. http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/isp-9-16/internode-nbn.htm My ADSL2+ maxs out at 7Mb/sec - could be fairly common for ADSL2+ so my WiFi g which does 54Mb/sec (throughput typically max half of that) would certainly not hit that limit. So I would certainly be impressed by anything above 7Mb/sec. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11g-2003 Are you talking Wifi N - up to 300Mb/sec (probably 150 throughput) ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009 or even 802.11ac - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Andrew On 12 July 2012 13:44, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
Interesting, but will you notice the difference between ADSL and NBN over Wifi? So far I don't think I've ever seen anything approaching ADSL speeds over Wifi so I don't expect much difference.
Also there's the issue of quota. As the current NBN plans have quotas that aren't much different to ADSL plans I don't expect that cafe to allow me to connect a laptop via GigE. If there was a cafe offering Ethernet access at speedds higher than ADSL2+ then I'd be very interested.

Hi, There are so many factors in how much bandwidth you will use. In normal web browsing even to local host you will generally never use that much bandwidth (depending on site). Speed the other site will deliver the bits to the net, the amount of traffic between you and the web site, etc. And lastly there is how the TCP protocol works which naturally limits the speed in which packets are delivered. But what the additional bandwidth means is that you can download more at one, open up more connections. have more people transferring content at once, etc. The only thing that will generally consume all of your bandwidth is bittorrent, which will suck up as much as it. But in the senerio with a 7Mbit ADSL and a 52Mbit Wifi, it is not the wifi which is the limiting factor. Gordon. On 12/07/2012, at 1:44 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
Interesting, but will you notice the difference between ADSL and NBN over Wifi? So far I don't think I've ever seen anything approaching ADSL speeds over Wifi so I don't expect much difference.
Also there's the issue of quota. As the current NBN plans have quotas that aren't much different to ADSL plans I don't expect that cafe to allow me to connect a laptop via GigE. If there was a cafe offering Ethernet access at speedds higher than ADSL2+ then I'd be very interested.
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Subject: Senator Stephen Conroy Media Release - Melbourne's first NBN cafe officially opened. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012, 13:22:56 From: "Power, Rebekka" <Rebekka.Power@dbcde.gov.au>
Melbourne's first NBN cafe officially opened
Minister for Broadband, Communications, and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, and Member for Wills, Kelvin Thomson, have today officially opened Melbourne's first NBN cafe - Hungry Birds Cafe in Brunswick, Victoria.
The cafe is attached to a building housing eight small businesses, all of which are connected to the NBN's fixed line high-speed broadband.
"Not only does Hungry Birds provide great food and coffee, but its customers can also experience the speed of the NBN through free Wi-Fi," Senator Conroy said.
"This is the first cafe in Melbourne connected to the NBN, but as the rollout gathers pace I expect cafes like this will become the norm. It is great to see a small business like Hungry Birds embrace the NBN."
"Cafe culture is an essential part of Brunswick life. Melbournians love nothing better than getting together, eating food, drinking coffee, and increasingly getting online. The speed and reliability of the NBN complements this culture so well," Mr Thomson said.
"Our customers are always our number one priority. That's why our cafe is focused on delivering quality - whether that is with our food and coffee; or the fast broadband provided by the NBN," said Hungry Birds owners Anne-Marie De-Boni and Ruth Quirk.
To show the NBN's capabilities over Wi-Fi, Senator Conroy and Mr Thomson were part of a video conference with three NBN-enabled Digital Hubs in Brunswick; Townsville, Queensland; and Kiama, New South Wales.
"The clarity and quality of the picture and audio provided via Hungry Bird's NBN Wi-Fi is something that can't be matched by the broadband available to most Australians today. This technology is essential for Australia's future," Senator Conroy said.
Brunswick is one of the first places in Australia with access to the National Broadband Network. The NBN is now available in more than 2,700 homes and businesses in Brunswick, with NBN construction currently underway for another 14,500 premises in the area.
Across Victoria, fibre construction will have started or be completed to 691,600 homes and businesses by mid-2015.
Under the Gillard Government, all Australians, wherever they live, will be able to access fast, reliable and affordable broadband through the NBN.
Date: Thursday 12 July 2012 Contact: Senator Conroy's Office: Adam Sims 0408 258 457 Mr Thomson's Office: Anthony Cianflone 0419 386 950
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