On Sat, Jun 03, 2017 at 01:49:50AM +1000, russell@coker.com.au wrote:
I don't know what they are like in that regard as I WANT promotional email from them.
That's nice, you want it. I don't. I don't ever want contact from any business that isn't about fulfilling a specific order or a direct response to an enquiry initiated by me or that I haven't asked for/signed-up for. Anything else is spam. I boycott spammers. I've boycotted so many spamming online shops now that I am extremely reluctant to order anything online any more because they all inevitably have the "brilliant" marketing idea of spamming everyone who ever ordered anything from them, regardless of whether the customer unticked the "spam me" checkboxes on the order form and regardless of the paragraphs of "DO NOT SPAM ME OR I WILL BOYCOTT YOU" notes left in the order instructions text field. i much prefer buying stuff from a shop where I don't have to give my name or street address or email address. You can't avoid giving this info to online retailers - it's essential for delivery. In my experience, they will ALL misuse that information at some point (either with ads about new products or sales or bullshit solicitation of testimonials and reviews or "customer satisfaction surverys") and so will their subcontractors like Australia Post and couriers. Worse, most will respond to any complaint about being spammed with a flat refusal to stop sending that shit with things like "tough, you're in our system now" (sometimes literally that. more often "nicer", more polite variatians of same, or blaming their "system" and that it can't make exceptions), or "it's not spam, it's a survey" (or a "review opportunity"), or "who doesn't love a sale?". Fortunately, I use a different email alias for every business I ever contact so can just disable that alias.
The Agora series tend to have QC issues.
that's good to know. I won't bother then.
You didn't buy a cheap phone last time and you seem to have got value for money out of it. Buying something that's designed as a high end product is probably a good strategy for you.
my usual strategy for computers is high-end, one or two generations behind - bug tested and cheaper. Phones and tablets disappear from the market too quickly for that to work as well (and are designed to be disposable fad gear for the fashion-conscious), so "mid-range, new models of last year's tech" is probably the best strategy for me here.
in a rooted Android I could just delete the damn things.
I've just done a quick test of my Note 10.1, and Android 4.4.2 supports none of the features you want for restricting data usage.
I don't care about data usage. It's WIFI, and only ever enabled at home where I have far more download quota on my ADSL every month than i ever use. I care about a dozen or more unwanted and un-used apps running in the background using up CPU power and battery life and reporting unknown information to google. I'd care about that if it was even 1 app using a tiny, un-noticable amount of CPU "phoning home", the fact that the tablet becomes unusable for a time after enabling WIFI just makes it worse. what's so hard to understand about "I don't use this shit, I don't want it running, and I don't want it spying on me"? BTW, this shit doesn't happen on my phone (which is running cyanogenmod CM7 - Android 4.x IIRC). It only happens on the tablet, running stock google android (5.1.x, whatever was the last released issued by google before they stopped issuing firmware updates for nexus 7). That's because I have control over what is installed and what runs on it.
Fortunately it's still as fast as newer Android devices like my Nexus 6P (and noticably faster than
like I already said, I don't want to just hide the problem by getting a faster device where the symptoms aren't noticable, I want to eliminate them by deleting the unwanted apps. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>