Hi, I haven't followed the Refugee Rights thread very closely, so don't know if these things have already been raised yet... (1) Australia scores second in the Human Development Index... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index (2) Australia scores =sixth= in the Democracy Index... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index Note: I migrated here legally 27 years ago from the USA, and have never regretted it for a minute. But it's only logical. I'm a member of Mensa, am almost 60, and have a slew of degrees and diplomas. (3) I believe the underlying cause of so much suffering and hardship is world-wide overpopulation... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpopulation Let's see if any of =these= things stir up debate among LUV-Talk. Cheers, Carl