
https://j.luv.asn.au/ Above is the URL for the LUV Jitsi instance. I'll name the room "a". Keep things short so you can type it quickly if you get disconnected. 6PM tomorrow we will start. You will notice that the server is based in Melbourne and has no IPv6 addresses, currently the only IPv6 address space I have access to is tunneled from Germany which isn't good for latency. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On 14/8/20 8:28 pm, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
Above is the URL for the LUV Jitsi instance. I'll name the room "a". Keep things short so you can type it quickly if you get disconnected.
6PM tomorrow we will start.
You will notice that the server is based in Melbourne and has no IPv6 addresses, currently the only IPv6 address space I have access to is tunneled from Germany which isn't good for latency.
If anybody else is having trouble joining Russells meet, please try this, as a proof that you can join a meet https://meet.jit.si/SBCCandSBCGeelongForums -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
If anybody else is having trouble joining Russells meet, please try this, as a proof that you can join a meet
FYI, Russell and I were both successfully in https://j.luv.asn.au/a . (And then I popped into your meet.jit.si room and said hullo there, too. I've heard that this testing site is also useful for debugging connection problems. It does a comprehensive test of your connection & Web browser's ability to support the WebRTC videoconferencing protocols that underlie Jitsi Meet. https://test.webrtc.org/ -- Cheers, "My hot flight attendant asked how I like my coffee. Rick Moen And that's when she told me: 'That's cute, honey, but rick@linuxmafia.com the coffee's free. You don't have to pay for it, here." McQ! (4x80) (seen on Twitter)

On 15/8/20 6:19 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On 14/8/20 8:28 pm, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
Above is the URL for the LUV Jitsi instance. I'll name the room "a".
I have just enetered the meet with https://j.luv.asn.au/a after some experimenting with android jitsi app. It then worked as a link in chromium. I'll have it running in the background from mid-afternoon - waiting for the host, and volume low - or I could claim I am the host and see what happens. If you want to join me, just call aloud, and I might hear you. Else, talk about 18:00. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

On 16/8/20 11:04 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
I have just enetered the meet with
I saw your URL and tried it. The page I got: https://trybooking.com/https://www.trybooking.com/254562 Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This <customErrors> tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="Off"/> </system.web> </configuration> Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/> </system.web> </configuration> -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
I have just enetered the meet with
after some experimenting with android jitsi app. It then worked as a link in chromium. I'll have it running in the background from mid-afternoon - waiting for the host, and volume low - or I could claim I am the host and see what happens. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you 'claim your are the host' (perfectly harmless; try it), Jitsi Meet asks you for a known username/password, and won't let you into the room without it. This is because Russell has (wisely) configured the server in what is called 'secure domain' mode: Only persons who've authenticated as authorised users are permitted to create and thus open rooms. Once a room is open, then anonymous members of the public may then enter it. The Jitsi Project's meet.jit.si server (available for use by the public at large), _by contrast,_ runs in an entirely non-authenticated mode. Anyone may create a room on it, upon request. (Persons in that room can then, however, add a password for entry.)

On Monday, 17 August 2020 5:37:49 AM AEST Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
mid-afternoon - waiting for the host, and volume low - or I could claim I am the host and see what happens.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you 'claim your are the host' (perfectly harmless; try it), Jitsi Meet asks you for a known username/password, and won't let you into the room without it. This is because Russell has (wisely) configured the server in what is called 'secure domain' mode: Only
LUV members are welcome to inspect LUV services and try to find configuration errors. If you suspect that I may have made a mistake in access control then test it out and let me know of any problems that occur. Also I'm up for discussions about the plans. While the final decisions on LUV services end up being with the committee I'm up for explaining my choices and debating their merits. I have some issues with motivation that have been exacerbated by the political situation (it's difficult to concentrate on IT work when being constantly reminded that thousands of innocent Americans are needlessly dying of Covid19). I would make better progress on LUV IT stuff if I had the committee following things up the way a project manager does in a typical IT environment. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au):
LUV members are welcome to inspect LUV services and try to find configuration errors. If you suspect that I may have made a mistake in access control then test it out and let me know of any problems that occur.
I doubt there are configuration errors, but have a few modest suggestions that I'll post to your blog entry on the subject. (You may well have already considered them, but I figure the discussion is benificial.) Thank you again for the good work, and I look forward to chatting again, this evening. -- Cheers, "My hot flight attendant asked how I like my coffee. Rick Moen And that's when she told me: 'That's cute, honey, but rick@linuxmafia.com the coffee's free. You don't have to pay for it, here." McQ! (4x80) (seen on Twitter)

On Monday, 17 August 2020 3:08:59 PM AEST Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au):
LUV members are welcome to inspect LUV services and try to find configuration errors. If you suspect that I may have made a mistake in access control then test it out and let me know of any problems that occur.
I doubt there are configuration errors,
The first time you do something generally won't get the best result, so some errors are likely.
but have a few modest suggestions that I'll post to your blog entry on the subject. (You may well have already considered them, but I figure the discussion is benificial.)
Sure, having a permanent and public discussion is good.
Thank you again for the good work, and I look forward to chatting again, this evening.
Yes, 6PM tonight, same address. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Hi LUVers, Would certainly try to join the Jitsi session today, to learn something, and share some thoughts. Thanks Russell for setting up and hosting this Jitsi server so interested people can join in the chat. Appreciate your efforts in keeping the flame of LUV alive during this difficult period. Regards, Wen On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 5:27 PM Russell Coker via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 3:08:59 PM AEST Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au):
LUV members are welcome to inspect LUV services and try to find configuration errors. If you suspect that I may have made a mistake in access control then test it out and let me know of any problems that occur.
I doubt there are configuration errors,
The first time you do something generally won't get the best result, so some errors are likely.
but have a few modest suggestions that I'll post to your blog entry on the subject. (You may well have already considered them, but I figure the discussion is benificial.)
Sure, having a permanent and public discussion is good.
Thank you again for the good work, and I look forward to chatting again, this evening.
Yes, 6PM tonight, same address.
-- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
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On 16/8/20 11:04 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
I have just entered the meet with
Evening all, particularly those chatting in the meet. I saw Russell, Rick and 3 others in the brief time I get between dumps-out. You can probably see how long I Russell and a couple of others have their mic's muted, and a couple have camera muted as well. I do hear a noise like somebody is blowing into a mic when I rejoin the meet automatically. I figure it's the link opening -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

On 17/8/20 6:09 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On 16/8/20 11:04 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
I have just entered the meet with
Evening all, particularly those chatting in the meet. I saw Russell, Rick and 3 others in the brief time I get between dumps-out.
You can probably see how long I Russell and a couple of others have their mic's muted, and a couple have camera muted as well.
I do hear a noise like somebody is blowing into a mic when I rejoin the meet automatically. I figure it's the link opening
Actually, one of the other 3 is Russell as a normal member, when I get a closer look. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

On 17/8/20 6:12 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On 17/8/20 6:09 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On 16/8/20 11:04 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
I have just entered the meet with
Evening all, particularly those chatting in the meet. I saw Russell, Rick and 3 others in the brief time I get between dumps-out.
You can probably see how long I Russell and a couple of others have their mic's muted, and a couple have camera muted as well.
I do hear a noise like somebody is blowing into a mic when I rejoin the meet automatically. I figure it's the link opening
Actually, one of the other 3 is Russell as a normal member, when I get a closer look.
I see that my mic is registering some back-ground noise at times. Can anybody hear that? -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
I see that my mic is registering some back-ground noise at times. Can anybody hear that?
Speaking for myself, I'm not hearing background noise in the room, only conversation among Russell, Andrew, Wen, and occasionally me. (Nick just now joined us, too.) We see a user panel representing you appear and seem to be connected (with video and audio muted), and then some 10 seconds later disconnecting -- and then the cycle repeats.

On 17/8/20 6:35 pm, Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
I see that my mic is registering some back-ground noise at times. Can anybody hear that?
Speaking for myself, I'm not hearing background noise in the room, only conversation among Russell, Andrew, Wen, and occasionally me. (Nick just now joined us, too.)
We see a user panel representing you appear and seem to be connected (with video and audio muted), and then some 10 seconds later disconnecting -- and then the cycle repeats.
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Thanks Rick I'm surprised everybody is still here - I just dived out to have dinner I went to turn my firewall off just in case, but I had already done that. Russell, Rick mentioned earlier today that you are restricting access to meets. Should I need a password? that I haven't noticed. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
Russell, Rick mentioned earlier today that you are restricting access to meets. Should I need a password? that I haven't noticed.
I can't remember what I might have said except perhaps that, on Russell's server, a room isn't available to ordinary, anonymous users until someone with prearranged username/password credentials enters it to 'open' the room. Thus, the 'a' room in use on Russell's server became available this evening around 6pm when Russell authenticated himself to Jitsi Meet, and opened it. Nobody has otherwise set any password. (In Jitsi Meet, it's possible to set / unset / change an entry password for an in-use room, e.g., if it suddenly becomes necessary to deter disruptive people from entering.)

On 17/8/20 8:22 pm, Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Nobody has otherwise set any password.
So I don't need a password. (In Jitsi Meet, it's possible to
set / unset / change an entry password for an in-use room, e.g., if it suddenly becomes necessary to deter disruptive people from entering.)
I had seen this somewhere, but not explored it. Guess I hadn't thought of shutting out disruptive people. Thanks Rick I am just trying to figure why I have problems with private jitsi servers but not with the public server - well when I am host. So I'll test that further by getting a local colleague to set up a different meet for our regular meet Friday night. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 9:43:40 AM AEST Keith Bainbridge via luv-main wrote:
So I don't need a password.
Correct.
(In Jitsi Meet, it's possible to
set / unset / change an entry password for an in-use room, e.g., if it suddenly becomes necessary to deter disruptive people from entering.)
I had seen this somewhere, but not explored it. Guess I hadn't thought of shutting out disruptive people.
I am just trying to figure why I have problems with private jitsi servers but not with the public server - well when I am host. So I'll test that further by getting a local colleague to set up a different meet for our regular meet Friday night.
Try connecting now and see how it goes. Currently there's no-one in there. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Quoting Keith Bainbridge (keithrbaugroups@gmail.com):
Evening all, particularly those chatting in the meet. I saw Russell, Rick and 3 others in the brief time I get between dumps-out.
You can probably see how long I Russell and a couple of others have their mic's muted, and a couple have camera muted as well.
Yes, we've been seeing you drop in and out repeatedly.
I do hear a noise like somebody is blowing into a mic when I rejoin the meet automatically. I figure it's the link opening
That indeed sounds like the low-key 'whoosh' sound when any new member joins a room. -- Cheers, "It's still magic even if you know how it's done." Rick Moen -- Terry Pratchett, _A Hat Full of Sky_ rick@linuxmafia.com McQ! (4x80)

On Friday, 14 August 2020 8:28:15 PM AEST Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
Above is the URL for the LUV Jitsi instance. I'll name the room "a". Keep things short so you can type it quickly if you get disconnected.
6PM tomorrow we will start.
You will notice that the server is based in Melbourne and has no IPv6 addresses, currently the only IPv6 address space I have access to is tunneled from Germany which isn't good for latency.
OK that worked reasonably well for Rick and me, and apparently not so well for Andrew and Keith. We will do another at 6PM tomorrow. See you then! -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On 15/8/20 6:59 pm, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
On Friday, 14 August 2020 8:28:15 PM AEST Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
Above is the URL for the LUV Jitsi instance. I'll name the room "a". Keep things short so you can type it quickly if you get disconnected.
6PM tomorrow we will start.
You will notice that the server is based in Melbourne and has no IPv6 addresses, currently the only IPv6 address space I have access to is tunneled from Germany which isn't good for latency.
OK that worked reasonably well for Rick and me, and apparently not so well for Andrew and Keith. We will do another at 6PM tomorrow. See you then!
I should be OK I'll work through Russell's blog, and have my tablet back in action as a fall-back. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugroups@gmail.com or ke1thozgroups@gmx.com
participants (4)
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Keith Bainbridge
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Rick Moen
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Russell Coker
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Wen Lin