22 Oct
2015
22 Oct
'15
10:29 a.m.
Hi there,
I wonder which cross-platform software or services you are using for
remote screen sharing sessions, if any?
Commercial vendors with proprietary software make it (more or less) easy
for Windows and Mac users to share their screens remotely, fool-proof
even for non-tech-savvies (e.g. Skype, WebEx, GoToMeeting, zoom.us or
browser-based such as Google Hangouts, etc.). A typical situation would
be: I use Debian 8 and I want to share my screen with a client or
partner running Windows or Mac to demonstrate something.
My experience so far: Skype works well under Debian, but I always have
issues with the screen sharing feature. I have used TeamViewer from time
to time (works very well). WebEx, GoToMeeting, zoom.us and most of the
other services don't support Linux. Remote Desktop (RDP) predominantly
aims to remote administration. Browser-based solutions I have not tested
yet.
I would prefer open source solutions of course (even paid). Must haves:
very easy to use for the "other side" and cross-platform capability
(Linux, Windows, Mac). Optional: audio (voice) support would be nice but
could also be achieved via VoIP/Skype/phone via an extra channel.
One-to-many (someone shares his/her screen to multiple receivers) would
be also nice, but an exception.
Does anyone have any experience, suggestions, advices in this regards?
Thanks
Michael
22 Oct
22 Oct
11:05 a.m.
On Thu, October 22, 2015 10:29 am, Michael Schams wrote:
I would prefer open source solutions of course (even paid). Must haves:
very easy to use for the "other side" and cross-platform capability (Linux,
Windows, Mac). Optional: audio (voice) support would be nice but
could also be achieved via VoIP/Skype/phone via an extra channel.
One-to-many (someone shares his/her screen to multiple receivers) would
be also nice, but an exception.
Does anyone have any experience, suggestions, advices in this regards?
Doesn't satisfy the first criteria of being easy to use. However once upon
a time I would have recommended Access Grid
http://www.accessgrid.org/
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11:37 a.m.
Michael Schams writes:
I wonder which cross-platform software or services you
are using for
remote screen sharing sessions, if any?
[...] A typical situation would be: I use Debian 8 and I want to share
my screen with a client or partner running Windows or Mac to
demonstrate something.
Does anyone have any experience, suggestions, advices in this regards?
Probably not helpful, but...
I only needed to share charcell (not GUI), so I just used GNU Screen.
It has some basic access control features,
but it was easier to just have both workers log into the same account,
and trust the other guy not to mash the keyboard at the wrong time. :P
For chatting I either just used write/talk to a second Screen tab,
or installed ircd on 127.0.0.1 and had each user run irssi to that.
If you don't already know GNU Screen, try tmux first.
12:11 p.m.
I used OpenBroadcaster for all my capturing,
Not sure how you would go with screen sharing via twitch or youtube for
what you are looking at doing. Very powerful software allowing you to
construct multiple scenes with overlays and combine different application
screens etc. I'm using it currently to (on windows at work) to capture UI
uage information on some software we are developing which involves 3
applications in 1 scene, main app window, nohboard onscreen keyboard and
task manager
I use it on linux at home to capture program footage (games, application
feature examples etc)
https://obsproject.com/
Wayne
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Michael Schams <
luv-main.1445467974(a)2015.trash.schams.net> wrote:
Hi there,
I wonder which cross-platform software or services you are using for
remote screen sharing sessions, if any?
Commercial vendors with proprietary software make it (more or less) easy
for Windows and Mac users to share their screens remotely, fool-proof even
for non-tech-savvies (e.g. Skype, WebEx, GoToMeeting, zoom.us or
browser-based such as Google Hangouts, etc.). A typical situation would be:
I use Debian 8 and I want to share my screen with a client or partner
running Windows or Mac to demonstrate something.
My experience so far: Skype works well under Debian, but I always have
issues with the screen sharing feature. I have used TeamViewer from time to
time (works very well). WebEx, GoToMeeting, zoom.us and most of the other
services don't support Linux. Remote Desktop (RDP) predominantly aims to
remote administration. Browser-based solutions I have not tested yet.
I would prefer open source solutions of course (even paid). Must haves:
very easy to use for the "other side" and cross-platform capability (Linux,
Windows, Mac). Optional: audio (voice) support would be nice but could also
be achieved via VoIP/Skype/phone via an extra channel. One-to-many (someone
shares his/her screen to multiple receivers) would be also nice, but an
exception.
Does anyone have any experience, suggestions, advices in this regards?
Thanks
Michael
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4:17 p.m.
Il 22 ottobre 2015 01:29:20 CEST, Michael Schams
<luv-main.1445467974(a)2015.trash.schams.net> ha scritto:
Hi there,
I wonder which cross-platform software or services you are using for
remote screen sharing sessions, if any?
I would prefer open source solutions of course (even paid). Must haves:
very easy to use for the "other side" and cross-platform capability
(Linux, Windows, Mac).
One-to-many (someone shares his/her screen to multiple receivers) would
be also nice, but an exception.
Does anyone have any experience, suggestions, advices in this regards?
You haven't mentioned VNC.
It's an open protocol, with a lot of implementations either open or commercial, and I
guess there are even solutions very user friendly for the client side.
In the past I have used a lot RealVNC and UltraVNC. the latter for example has several
advanced features that you can find interesting in the commercial version.
For the server side "vino" should be the package to install, if I remember well,
which allow you to share your actual desktop, while others, like tightvnc, create a
virtual desktop where you, and others, can connect with any vnc client.
My 2 cent.
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7:14 p.m.
On 22.10.15 10:29, Michael Schams wrote:
I wonder which cross-platform software or services you
are using for
remote screen sharing sessions, if any?
The closest I've ever been to that sort of thing is getting into X11 on
a *nix server from M$, using Hummingbird Exceed. Once you're into X11,
then I figure that fiddling with $DISPLAY (or similar) ought to go a
long way toward the sharing part of it, since you're only after a
pre-existing display, rather than a new one of your own.
Erik
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7:30 p.m.
2015-10-22 10:14 GMT+02:00 Erik Christiansen <dvalin(a)internode.on.net>et>:
The closest I've ever been to that sort of thing
is getting into X11 on
a *nix server from M$, using Hummingbird Exceed. Once you're into X11,
then I figure that fiddling with $DISPLAY (or similar) ought to go a
long way toward the sharing part of it, since you're only after a
pre-existing display, rather than a new one of your own.
Not exactly.
Of course you can set up an X server on the remote pc (Exceed is just one,
MobaXterm [1] is another, but there are others also), and start on the
local machine an X client which connect to the remote X server, by playing
with dhe $DISPLAY variable, but that's not "sharing": such client will
shows its windows just on the remote screen, and as far as I know there's
no way to move windows of a running process from an X server to another.
[1] http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/
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Mick
7:29 p.m.
On 22/10/15 09:29, Michael Schams wrote:
Browser-based solutions I have not tested yet.
We use:
- GoToMeeting - because it works for corporate clients - WIN
- Zoom - Because it works for an offshore partner - WIN
Everything else
- Google + Hangouts
Basically if you are comfortable in having a Google account then there
is utterly nothing stopping you having cross platform bliss using Hangouts.
Cheers
P
23 Oct
23 Oct
1:24 p.m.
New subject: [luv-main] Re: remote screen sharing
On Thu, 2015-10-22 at 18:29 +1000, Piers Rowan wrote:
[...]
- Google + Hangouts
Basically if you are comfortable in having a Google account then there
is utterly nothing stopping you having cross platform bliss using Hangouts.
Pick your poison: non-FOSS and expensive TeamViewer or privacy-invading
Google Hangouts.
Thanks for your feedback Daniel, Lev, Trent, Erik and Piers. Much
appreciated. I will give Hangouts a crack, but suspect there is a good
chance that I will stumble across issues with Iceweasel or Firefox on
Debian Jessie soon (from what I read so far on this matter). Let's see.
Cheers
Michael
3:50 p.m.
New subject: [luv-main] Re: remote screen sharing
Unfortunately, if the machine you are connecting to is behind a nat'ed
network, it will be difficult to use vnc. You'll have to configure the
router accordingly. This may or may not be feasible.
Cheers,
Daniel.
On 23/10/15 14:58, Andrew Pam wrote:
On 23/10/15 13:24, Michael Schams wrote:
Pick your poison: non-FOSS and expensive
TeamViewer or privacy-invading
Google Hangouts.
How about using VNC or one of its many derivatives?
Hope that helps,
Andrew
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3:56 p.m.
New subject: [luv-main] Re: remote screen sharing
On 23/10/15 15:50, Daniel Jitnah wrote:
Unfortunately, if the machine you are connecting to is
behind a nat'ed
network, it will be difficult to use vnc. You'll have to configure the
router accordingly. This may or may not be feasible.
Use public IPv6 without NAT? :)
Cheers,
Andrew
26 Oct
26 Oct
10:55 a.m.
Daniel Jitnah writes:
Unfortunately, if the machine you are connecting to is
behind a nat'ed
network, it will be difficult to use vnc. You'll have to configure the
router accordingly. This may or may not be feasible.
Er, don't you *always* tunnel VNC inside something else (like SSH?)
VNC isn't safe to serve raw over untrusted networks.
27 Oct
27 Oct
12:09 a.m.
New subject: [luv-main] Re: remote screen sharing
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:55 +1100, Trent W. Buck wrote:
Yeah, well, that's one of the reasons, why VNC or one of its derivatives
is not an option. I am dealing with non-tech-savvy people and they need
a simple, fool-proof solution to just "see my screen".
Tools like TeamViewer, Skype, WebEx, GoToMeeting, etc. are options, but
if I ask someone: "I would like to show you something. Could you please
send me your public SSH key, so you can establish a SSH tunnel
between... bla bla...". I loose this guys at the words "could you please
send me" and a key is something you need to physically enter your home
and a tunnel has something to do with trains ;-)
I think I hoped that someone says, "Try ABC. That's exactly like
TeamViewer but open source, licensed under GPL and they are looking for
some volunteers to support them in XYZ." *dreaming*
Thanks everyone! I have appreciated all your comments/suggestions.
Cheers
Michael
Unfortunately,
if the machine you are connecting to is behind a nat'ed
network, it will be difficult to use vnc. You'll have to configure the
router accordingly. This may or may not be feasible.
Er, don't you *always* tunnel VNC inside something else (like SSH?)
VNC isn't safe to serve raw over untrusted networks. 
23 Oct
23 Oct
5:59 p.m.
New subject: [luv-main] Re: remote screen sharing
Hi Michael,
If remote desktop like VnC or RDP is what you are after, then Google's
Chrome Remote Desktop is one such cross-platform tool to use. I had tried
it some time ago to GUI login, from an Ubuntu PC or Chromebook, into
another Ubuntu PC remotely. Both sides just need to have Google Chrome
browser as well as the Chrome Remote Desktop App installed.
I remember the remote Linux PC that you want to remote into just need to
start up the Chrome Remote Desktop app from within the Chrome browser, and
then just sit there ready for you to login from your end. There are
security options that you can enable for the user to decide who to let in.
Using Chrome Remote Desktop apparently have no problem connecting over
NAT'ed network. Both ends just need to login to your own Google account
will do.
H.T.H.
Wen
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michael Schams <
luv-main.1445467974(a)2015.trash.schams.net> wrote:
On Thu, 2015-10-22 at 18:29 +1000, Piers Rowan wrote:
[...]
- Google + Hangouts
Basically if you are comfortable in having a Google account then there
is utterly nothing stopping you having cross platform bliss using
Hangouts.
Pick your poison: non-FOSS and expensive TeamViewer or privacy-invading
Google Hangouts.
Thanks for your feedback Daniel, Lev, Trent, Erik and Piers. Much
appreciated. I will give Hangouts a crack, but suspect there is a good
chance that I will stumble across issues with Iceweasel or Firefox on
Debian Jessie soon (from what I read so far on this matter). Let's see.
Cheers
Michael
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