The Android SSH client ConnectBot is quite good for what it does.
ConnectBot, at least last version I looked at, intercepts a number of keystrokes with no way of disabling - iirc alt+key are all intercepted. Good for a limited soft keyboard, not so good if you have a hardware keyboard and actually need to send those combinations through.
I believe the VX ConnectBot version provides additional support for hardware keyboards, etc. I converted to this after I picked up a 'small' hardware keyboard and found certain keys not functioning correctly on my Nexus 7 2012. Might be worth a look to see if this version will suit your needs better. Never did get comfortable with the small keyboard but it gets me out of a jam on occasion.
JuiceSSH is much better at this, all key strokes get passed correctly to the server, but its management of ssh-keys is poor. ssh-agent forwarding is silently enabled with no way of disabling. If you click the checkbox to save the ssh key password it permanently saves it with no option to delete it. I don't think it is possible to change the password on an existing key.
I also think the VX ConnectBot could be worth a look here, you seem to be able to toggle ssh-agent/X11 forwarding etc and you can remove keys. I haven't used the agent functionality to date.
Wayne
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As with Wayne, I have a 2012 Wi-Fi-only Nexus 7 ($200 a year ago) and an external keyboard/case which was $30 delivered on ebay. It's running stock lollipop which is buggy on this particular hardware (no probs on my nexus 4, except the freakin' battery life which is terrible). http://i.imgur.com/jEXA480.jpg The case just has a groove which the tablet fits into in landscape orientation, and plastic clasps when acting as a case which feels very sturdy. It works out fine on public transport in my lap, and very easy to switch between use as a tablet and a tiny laptop. But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( . I have used it effectively with lecture chair tables to take notes using a markdown app. I would say this type of solution would work out fine for an 8-10 inch tablet with more surface for the keyboard, as long as it has all the keys. Connection is via bluetooth. That would leave finding something with 4G and stock android, which probably narrows down the field quite a bit. The nexus 9 fits that criteria but it's fairly expensive and I hear the build quality is not as good as it should be for the price (a little give in the curved case, screen is slightly cheapish etc.). As for a 'true' linux tablet, that's something of a white whale :/ - Edward On 15 April 2015 at 12:26, Wayne Moulden <waynemou@gmail.com> wrote:
The Android SSH client ConnectBot is quite good for what it does.
ConnectBot, at least last version I looked at, intercepts a number of keystrokes with no way of disabling - iirc alt+key are all intercepted. Good for a limited soft keyboard, not so good if you have a hardware keyboard and actually need to send those combinations through.
I believe the VX ConnectBot version provides additional support for hardware keyboards, etc. I converted to this after I picked up a 'small' hardware keyboard and found certain keys not functioning correctly on my Nexus 7 2012. Might be worth a look to see if this version will suit your needs better. Never did get comfortable with the small keyboard but it gets me out of a jam on occasion.
JuiceSSH is much better at this, all key strokes get passed correctly to the server, but its management of ssh-keys is poor. ssh-agent forwarding is silently enabled with no way of disabling. If you click the checkbox to save the ssh key password it permanently saves it with no option to delete it. I don't think it is possible to change the password on an existing key.
I also think the VX ConnectBot could be worth a look here, you seem to be able to toggle ssh-agent/X11 forwarding etc and you can remove keys. I haven't used the agent functionality to date.
Wayne
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and I forgot to mention, I also use VX ConnectBot which is a fork. It also has sftp. Don't have much experience with it as I don't use ssh much away from home, but with an external keyboard it seems fine. On 15 April 2015 at 12:42, thelionroars <thelionroars1337@gmail.com> wrote:
As with Wayne, I have a 2012 Wi-Fi-only Nexus 7 ($200 a year ago) and an external keyboard/case which was $30 delivered on ebay. It's running stock lollipop which is buggy on this particular hardware (no probs on my nexus 4, except the freakin' battery life which is terrible).
http://i.imgur.com/jEXA480.jpg
The case just has a groove which the tablet fits into in landscape orientation, and plastic clasps when acting as a case which feels very sturdy. It works out fine on public transport in my lap, and very easy to switch between use as a tablet and a tiny laptop. But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( . I have used it effectively with lecture chair tables to take notes using a markdown app. I would say this type of solution would work out fine for an 8-10 inch tablet with more surface for the keyboard, as long as it has all the keys. Connection is via bluetooth. That would leave finding something with 4G and stock android, which probably narrows down the field quite a bit. The nexus 9 fits that criteria but it's fairly expensive and I hear the build quality is not as good as it should be for the price (a little give in the curved case, screen is slightly cheapish etc.).
As for a 'true' linux tablet, that's something of a white whale :/
- Edward
On 15 April 2015 at 12:26, Wayne Moulden <waynemou@gmail.com> wrote:
The Android SSH client ConnectBot is quite good for what it does.
ConnectBot, at least last version I looked at, intercepts a number of keystrokes with no way of disabling - iirc alt+key are all intercepted. Good for a limited soft keyboard, not so good if you have a hardware keyboard and actually need to send those combinations through.
I believe the VX ConnectBot version provides additional support for hardware keyboards, etc. I converted to this after I picked up a 'small' hardware keyboard and found certain keys not functioning correctly on my Nexus 7 2012. Might be worth a look to see if this version will suit your needs better. Never did get comfortable with the small keyboard but it gets me out of a jam on occasion.
JuiceSSH is much better at this, all key strokes get passed correctly to the server, but its management of ssh-keys is poor. ssh-agent forwarding is silently enabled with no way of disabling. If you click the checkbox to save the ssh key password it permanently saves it with no option to delete it. I don't think it is possible to change the password on an existing key.
I also think the VX ConnectBot could be worth a look here, you seem to be able to toggle ssh-agent/X11 forwarding etc and you can remove keys. I haven't used the agent functionality to date.
Wayne
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 at 12:43 thelionroars <thelionroars1337@gmail.com> wrote:
As with Wayne, I have a 2012 Wi-Fi-only Nexus 7 ($200 a year ago) and an external keyboard/case which was $30 delivered on ebay
Last I looked for such a case for my current tablet (Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition), I gave up because I couldn't find anything :-( If the tablet isn't prone to fall out of the groove, that might suit my needs. But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
I also note there is no Escape key, which as a long time vim user, would really bother me. On the plus side, unlike my current tablet keyboard, it does seem to have a proper delete button in the proper place. Mine has a lock button there instead, I am forever accidentally locking the screen :-(
Brian May writes:
But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
*BLAM!* | 1. Misspelling of tilde. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tilda#English | Not to be confused with Tilde, the ~ symbol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda
On 16 Apr 2015 8:05 pm, "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian May writes:
But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
*BLAM!* 1. Misquoting of email. I didn't say that :-)
*BLAM!*
| 1. Misspelling of tilde. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tilda#English
| Not to be confused with Tilde, the ~ symbol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda
Keyboard was probably too small for the person who originally wrote that...
Yes, yes it was. Or at least that's the story I'm sticking to. On 16 Apr 2015 20:11, "Brian May" <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
On 16 Apr 2015 8:05 pm, "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian May writes:
But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :(
.
*BLAM!*
1. Misquoting of email.
I didn't say that :-)
*BLAM!*
| 1. Misspelling of tilde. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tilda#English
| Not to be confused with Tilde, the ~ symbol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda
Keyboard was probably too small for the person who originally wrote that...
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Brian May wrote:
On 16 Apr 2015 8:05 pm, "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian May writes:
But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
*BLAM!*
1. Misquoting of email.
I didn't say that :-)
A thousand apologies. When I look closer, I see text/plain has ("| " added): | If the tablet isn't prone to fall out of the groove, that might suit my | needs. | | But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( . | > | | I also note there is no Escape key, which as a long time vim user, would | really bother me. Whereas the text/html has ("| " added): | If the tablet isn't prone to fall out of the groove, that might suit | my needs. | | But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda | key :( . | | I also note there is no Escape key, which as a long time vim user, | would really bother me. You can see how I made a mistake :-/ I can't see an X-Mailer in gmane.org.user-groups.linux.luv.general:5148.
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 10:36 Trent W. Buck <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't see an X-Mailer in gmane.org.user-groups.linux.luv.general:5148.
I am currently using Google Inbox, and Yes, its quoting doesn't seem to be particularly great. Rather horrible on Android in fact - if I push enter to add a line of text it wants to quote it with no obvious way of unquoting it.
Brian, was the '>' following the "small hands ... tilda" text intended to precede it? Here, in mutt, that text visibly shows as yours: On 15.04.15 04:03, Brian May wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 at 12:43 thelionroars <thelionroars1337@gmail.com> wrote:
As with Wayne, I have a 2012 Wi-Fi-only Nexus 7 ($200 a year ago) and an external keyboard/case which was $30 delivered on ebay
Last I looked for such a case for my current tablet (Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition), I gave up because I couldn't find anything :-(
If the tablet isn't prone to fall out of the groove, that might suit my needs.
But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
I also note there is no Escape key, which as a long time vim user, would really bother me.
On the plus side, unlike my current tablet keyboard, it does seem to have a proper delete button in the proper place. Mine has a lock button there instead, I am forever accidentally locking the screen :-(
And opening the post in vim we also see the text is unquoted (shown here raw): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the tablet isn't prone to fall out of the groove, that might suit my needs. But, the keyboard is tiny even for my small hands, and no tilda key :( .
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It does look like that google thing isn't rated for real mail. Erik (Who had a quote somewhere, along the lines of "Html isn't mail, and mail isn't html", but can't lay his hands on it ATM.)
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 14:45 Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> wrote:
It does look like that google thing isn't rated for real mail.
I think the web interface is fine. Or at lease seems fine to me. However, the Android client can be kind of dodgy. Guessing they only tested it with top posting... If I type emails on Android, will use the GMail client, and see if that helps.
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 15:06 Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
If I type emails on Android, will use the GMail client, and see if that helps.
I sent feedback to Google on this. As this is Google, I expect a rapid solution to this problem; it should be fixed in the next millennium at the absolute latest.
How presumptuous, I'm sure people who still use plain text emails are their target demographic. On 17 Apr 2015 15:23, "Brian May" <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 15:06 Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
If I type emails on Android, will use the GMail client, and see if that helps.
I sent feedback to Google on this. As this is Google, I expect a rapid solution to this problem; it should be fixed in the next millennium at the absolute latest.
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Quoting thelionroars (thelionroars1337@gmail.com):
How presumptuous, I'm sure people who still use plain text emails are their target demographic.
I don't think of my e-mail as plaintext; I think of it as embedded in invisible <pre></pre> tags. ;-> -- Cheers, English is essentially Pictish that was attacked out of nowhere by Rick Moen Angles cohabiting with Teutons who were done in by a drunk bunch of rick@linux Vikings masquerading as Frenchmen who insisted they spoke Latin and mafia.com Greek but lacked the Arabic in which to convey that. -- Bill Hammel
Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes:
Quoting thelionroars (thelionroars1337@gmail.com):
How presumptuous, I'm sure people who still use plain text emails are their target demographic.
I don't think of my e-mail as plaintext; I think of it as embedded in invisible <pre></pre> tags. ;->
Oh dear, so 1997. Didn't you hear? We don't use PRE anymore, we use style="white-space: pre". That way twb gets bonus annoyed at github.
On 17.04.15 05:23, Brian May wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 15:06 Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
If I type emails on Android, will use the GMail client, and see if that helps.
I sent feedback to Google on this. As this is Google, I expect a rapid solution to this problem; it should be fixed in the next millennium at the absolute latest.
Could (probably) be worse. They could let the attention-deficit teenagers who worked on Ubuntu 14.04 loose on it. (Installed that twice from CD, both times ending up with a vacant desktop with no discernible way to invoke anything other than one of those folder-explorer-thingies. So went for Debian instead.) It is therapeutic to get out on the farm with a chainsaw after mucking with recently developed software. Erik
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 at 12:26 Wayne Moulden <waynemou@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe the VX ConnectBot version provides additional support for
hardware keyboards, etc. I converted to this after I picked up a 'small' hardware keyboard and found certain keys not functioning correctly on my Nexus 7 2012. Might be worth a look to see if this version will suit your needs better. Never did get comfortable with the small keyboard but it gets me out of a jam on occasion.
My experimenting is that VX COnnectBot with hardware keyboard mapping enabled doesn't seem to pass Alt+Keystrokes through correctly[1], and also I seem to be getting weird display artefacts - it seems to want to echo back the first word of every command I execute for some bizarre reason.
Possibly different standards being used here. For example Alt+Up Arrow under JuiceSSH produces "<escape>1;3A" which works with byobu-tmux, however VX ConnectBot produces "<escape>5~" which does not work.
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