Application form for membership of LUV
Hi all, Under the rules of LUV the following form is what must be submitted (and approved by the committee) for you to be a member of LUV and thus eligible to vote in the AGM. See section 4 "4. Membership, entry fees and subscription" for details. The form is quoted from the LUV rules at: http://luv.asn.au/node/8 APPENDIX 1 APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP OF LINUX USERS OF VICTORIA, INC. I, _________________________________________________________________________, of _________________________________________________________________________ desire to become a member of ______________________________________________. In the event of my admission as a member, I agree to be bound by the rules of the Association for the time being in force. ______________________________________________ Signature of Applicant ______________________________________________ Date -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC
Chris Samuel wrote:
Hi all,
Under the rules of LUV the following form is what must be submitted (and approved by the committee) for you to be a member of LUV and thus eligible to vote in the AGM.
See section 4 "4. Membership, entry fees and subscription" for details.
The form is quoted from the LUV rules at:
APPENDIX 1
APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP OF LINUX USERS OF VICTORIA, INC.
I, _________________________________________________________________________,
of _________________________________________________________________________
desire to become a member of ______________________________________________.
In the event of my admission as a member, I agree to be bound by the rules of the Association for the time being in force.
______________________________________________ Signature of Applicant
______________________________________________ Date
Er, Chris or Les or whoever; questions: 1/ I take it that just being on mailing lists: luv-main, luv-talk is no longer a sufficient condition ? 2/ I assume line beginning " desire...." is asking for " LINUX USERS OF VICTORIA, INC." ? ....... which seems a little redundant what with the title and all ! 3/ The line ending "..........signature of applicant..." , is asking for an actual handwritten signature ? Options then are: - to print, sign, scan and attach to an email; which I assume then goes to "luv-secretary@luv.asn.au" ? or - to print , sign and then send via snail-mail to 'some address ' regards Rohan McLeod
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 02:02:17PM +1000, Rohan McLeod wrote:
1/ I take it that just being on mailing lists: luv-main, luv-talk is no longer a sufficient condition ?
being subscribed to luv-announce has been the de-facto criteria for years, and has been stated and accepted many times on this and other LUV lists. IANAL but IMO there's more than sufficient precedent (e.g. other AGMs over the years, and the fact that no-one has ever disputed that criteria), but the Rules really should be updated to reflect this.
3/ The line ending "..........signature of applicant..." , is asking for an actual handwritten signature ? Options then are: - to print, sign, scan and attach to an email; which I assume then goes to "luv-secretary@luv.asn.au" ? or - to print , sign and then send via snail-mail to 'some address '
i used gnupg to sign my email proxy form. this is reasonable and entirely appropriate for a computers and technology group like LUV. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
On 02/09/13 14:30, Craig Sanders wrote:
being subscribed to luv-announce has been the de-facto criteria for years, and has been stated and accepted many times on this and other LUV lists.
That was my understanding too, but the act says LUV must keep a register of members including their name, address and the date they became a member so I'm not sure that luv-announce could meet that need. You can tell I'm trying to debug an annoying occasional SEGV in part of Open-MPI can't you? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC
Chris Samuel <chris@csamuel.org> wrote:
On 02/09/13 14:30, Craig Sanders wrote:
being subscribed to luv-announce has been the de-facto criteria for years, and has been stated and accepted many times on this and other LUV lists.
That was my understanding too, but the act says LUV must keep a register of members including their name, address and the date they became a member so I'm not sure that luv-announce could meet that need.
When I registered (late 90s), I had to fill in a form that provided my name, address and other details. Once this had been reviewed and accepted, the subscription to luv-announce was created by whoever handled the formalities.
On Mon, September 2, 2013 2:58 pm, Chris Samuel wrote:
You can tell I'm trying to debug an annoying occasional SEGV in part of Open-MPI can't you?
Most organisations have rules that resemble badly written code. Entire countries, too. -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GCertPM, MBA mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
On 02.09.13 14:58, Chris Samuel wrote:
On 02/09/13 14:30, Craig Sanders wrote:
being subscribed to luv-announce has been the de-facto criteria for years, and has been stated and accepted many times on this and other LUV lists.
That was my understanding too, but the act says LUV must keep a register of members including their name, address and the date they became a member so I'm not sure that luv-announce could meet that need.
ISTM that the mailing list is a 100% up to date register of both passive and active members, and that the email addresses in it constitute the (electronic) postal addresses of those members. (There has already been advice on this list that a residential address is not necessary, but rather a means of distinguishing each member from a possible namesake. The email address definitely does that.) If no other record of membership duration has been maintained, then the luv-main and other list archives do show the date of the earliest recorded post of each member, i.e. the date on which they became an active member, if the archive is complete. It wouldn't take too much to cobble up a script to extract that detail for everyone who has ever posted, and correlate it with the current mailing lists, if the archives were to be viewed as an excessively noisy membership register. Erik -- Anything can be impossible, given sufficient bureaucracy.
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 05:15:01PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
If no other record of membership duration has been maintained, then the luv-main and other list archives do show the date of the earliest recorded post of each member, i.e. the date on which they became an active member, if the archive is complete.
two problems with that: 1. not everyone posts - in fact, i'd be surprised if more than about 25 or 30% of members ever post at all (most members of most lists lurk and rarely, if ever, post anything - that's perfectly normal), and 2. membership is from when you subscribe to luv-announce, not when you first post to luv-announce or any LUV list. given that the mailing list software has changed at least twice (and even the name of the list, from melb-linux to luv-*), there probably isn't any reliable record of when everyone joined. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
On 02/09/13 17:15, Erik Christiansen wrote:
ISTM that the mailing list is a 100% up to date register of both passive and active members, and that the email addresses in it constitute the (electronic) postal addresses of those members.
Given that the act seems to discriminate between addresses and email addresses (mentioning both for registering for incorporation) it would be worth checking with them to find out if they will accept email addresses. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC
On 02/09/13 17:15, Erik Christiansen wrote:
(There has already been advice on this list that a residential address is not necessary, but rather a means of distinguishing each member from a possible namesake. The email address definitely does that.)
LUV's own rules say the member register will have: 5(1)(a) the name, postal and electronic mail address of each member so that's pretty clear.. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC
On 2/09/13 2:02 PM, Rohan McLeod wrote:
Chris Samuel wrote:
Hi all,
Under the rules of LUV the following form is what must be submitted (and approved by the committee) for you to be a member of LUV and thus eligible to vote in the AGM.
See section 4 "4. Membership, entry fees and subscription" for details. That form rings a bell, though it's something like 15 years since I joined LUV :)
-- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
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