The advantage of making the statements on-list are the knock-on benefits. Others who are offended benefit from the visible debate and visible show of support. I would suggest it is advisable to make the decision about private vs on-list resolution of issues on a case by case basis. I would heartily suggest that gay people have had to put up with enough crap that goes well beyond the ordinary. I think it's perfectly fine to call people out on using terminology like poofs. It's not a matter of never saying anything offensive ever, it's a matter of respecting individuals and being basically respectful. We all share the same space here, so we need to find a way to get along. Free speech, well-used, is about being able to discuss issues freely and put forth bold ideas. I don't really think that casual slurs against minorities is what anyone had in mind as the central use case... On 10 December 2014 at 09:02, walter <walter@wideband.net.au> wrote:
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 08:41 +1100, Bob wrote:
Hmmm,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Jesse Stevens <noodlepringle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry did you just say iPoofs? This is totally inappropriate in any context. Yes it is.
Slurs against minority groups are unacceptable.
In future place CC messages about such behavior to the LUV committee so we can take action if appropriate.
It's interesting how social pressure to conform to the latest, fashionable, politically correct rhetoric pervades every corner of our lives. Not that I agree with the terminology used, or the thinly veiled implication, but whatever happened to 'free speech'? Personal responses to such poor taste may be appropriate, but the pressures within social media etc to conform to the views of pressure groups and all sorts of lobbyists is becoming tiresome - as is the public threat of action by some 'higher authority'. Next we won't be able to say 'girl' on this in public - perhaps naturally assigned female gender or NAFG?
Perhaps rather than place such personal social pressure publicly within this forum it could be done by PM?
LUV Talk anyway
Bob
I agree re PM How many times has the "offensive" term been repeated in this group now.
Side note that "offensive term" does have more than one meaning, I wonder why the only one that could be considered offensive is the one chosen ???
walter
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