Today at the beginners meeting I was asked about donations to the Hardware Library. I think it's worth discussing the matter here. P4 systems and most parts from that era generally aren't useful, systems based around the AMD64 architecture are just too common. AGP video cards aren't useful because they only fit older systems and people who still have such systems in use are usually using them as routers or something. PCI Ethernet cards have some use, 2 port Ethernet cards are useful and 4 port Ethernet cards are VERY useful. RAM from systems of most ages is often useful, and when it isn't useful it's small and light enough that I'm happy to take donations and sort them out later. SATA disks are always useful, even the small ones. Large IDE disks are useful, for IDE 300G is large. All PCIe cards are useful except for NVidia video cards. As an aside if anyone wants an NVidia PCIe card then I'll bring some along. I usually don't carry them around due to driver issues. I will bring the Hardware Library to the BBQ. I know that you are the type of people who want that. ;) -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/