Re: Subject: Need advice re wireless modem-router

I have always had pretty good results from Billion equipment. I use the 7404 range, which may be a bit expensive, but they tend to be good at holding a connection and they are stable. I have had less than stellar experiences with a couple of Netgear routers and WAPs over the years, although their ProSafe switches (the ones with the blue steel cases) have been fine.
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:44:43 +1100 From: "Terry Duell" <tduell@iinet.net.au> Subject: Need advice re wireless modem-router To: luv-tech@luv.asn.au Message-ID: <op.wmw24tqurs0ygh@phenom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Hello All, I have been asked to buy an ADSL2+ wireless modem-router for a non-tech friend. My experiences with wireless modem-routers is varied and probably a bit out of date. I have had excellent service from a Dlink DSL-G604T. Not long ago I bought a Netgear DGN1000 (for same friend) and it was a complete disaster. It would take something like 20-30 mins to establish an initial connection with the ISP. The Netcomm (non wireless) that it replaced would establish a connection in about 1-2 mins, which is about how long my Dlink takes. An electrical storm wiped out the Netgear and now I have to find a suitable replacement. I wish to avoid the problems we had with the Netgear, and based on my experience was thinking about a Dlink (2740BR or 2750B) but it occurred to that maybe all/most of these devices use the same chipset. Any advice that might help avoid purchasing another disaster would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers, -- Regards, Terry Duell
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:48:21 +1100, Andrew Mather <mathera@gmail.com> wrote:
I have always had pretty good results from Billion equipment. I use the 7404 range, which may be a bit expensive, but they tend to be good at holding a connection and they are stable.
I have had less than stellar experiences with a couple of Netgear routers and WAPs over the years, although their ProSafe switches (the ones with the blue steel cases) have been fine.
Thanks for your response. Cheers, -- Regards, Terry Duell

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Terry Duell wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:48:21 +1100, Andrew Mather <mathera@gmail.com> wrote:
I have always had pretty good results from Billion equipment. I use the 7404 range, which may be a bit expensive, but they tend to be good at holding a connection and they are stable.
I have had less than stellar experiences with a couple of Netgear routers and WAPs over the years, although their ProSafe switches (the ones with the blue steel cases) have been fine.
Thanks for your response.
I bought the Billion 7300 series several years ago (their cheap crap range?). I bought it specifically because the marketing literature mentioned "watchdog timer". If the marketing literature mentions things like that, then surely it was designed by actual engineers without the marketing department's help, right? Well, it turned out it needed it. And it doesn't always work (as opposed to my older netcomm modem that needed it and didn't have it). It's a linux machine under the hood, with not much memory and no swap. And the watchdog timer is probably just a shell script or its monitoring the wrong thing (perhaps not the ppp link?) -- Tim Connors

I actually wish I had sent that reply a little later last night...answer may have been different regarding my experience with Billion ! ;-) I encountered what turns out to be a not uncommon problem with firewall config in my current router, the BiPAC 7402NX (maybe NOX, can't recall and am at work) I was trying to add an additional packet filtering rule via the web admin page. When I would define and attempt to "add", the page would refresh, as expected and all rules were gone..which was not expected. Turns out this is a known problem. It was well past midnight and a "school" day, so after a few failed attempts, I eventually got back to the previous state and went to bed. My firewall setting is to deny everything in all directions, unless specifically permitted, so loss of these rules cuts off the Internet. With wife and kids who "need" the internet or their world will stop, previous functionality at least, was required. Tonight is firmware checking/updating and maybe packet-filter rewrite night. However, I will say that this is the only problem I have had with Billions and I still have my previous ones in the cupboard, working fine, as I have upgraded due to increased functionality (ADSL to ADSL2, Add VOIP, Add Wireless etc) rather than hardware failure. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Tim Connors <tconnors@rather.puzzling.org>wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Terry Duell wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:48:21 +1100, Andrew Mather <mathera@gmail.com> wrote:
I have always had pretty good results from Billion equipment. I use the 7404 range, which may be a bit expensive, but they tend to be good at holding a connection and they are stable.
I have had less than stellar experiences with a couple of Netgear routers and WAPs over the years, although their ProSafe switches (the ones with the blue steel cases) have been fine.
Thanks for your response.
I bought the Billion 7300 series several years ago (their cheap crap range?). I bought it specifically because the marketing literature mentioned "watchdog timer". If the marketing literature mentions things like that, then surely it was designed by actual engineers without the marketing department's help, right? Well, it turned out it needed it. And it doesn't always work (as opposed to my older netcomm modem that needed it and didn't have it).
It's a linux machine under the hood, with not much memory and no swap. And the watchdog timer is probably just a shell script or its monitoring the wrong thing (perhaps not the ppp link?)
-- Tim Connors
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