Re: [luv-talk] Refugees (was Re: Vale Nelson Mandela)

In UK, Mrs. Bishop was interviewed by the BBC. She claimed that the camps are in acceptable conditions etc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03xdmz6 (start at ca. 1:14 hr) Theresienstadt was looking good as well (when the Red Cross visited). Well, "our" camps _are_ hard to judge because it is hard to see them, as I mentioned before. Quoting "Petros" <Petros.Listig@fdrive.com.au>
BTW: Australia, PNG and Nauru make it deliberately difficult to see and report about these centres:
https://en.rsf.org/nauru-unacceptable-increase-in-14-01-2014,45724.html
"Reporters Without Borders is outraged by the decision by the Micronesian island nation of Nauru, which hosts an Australian government detention centre for asylum-seekers, to increase the cost of a journalist visa from 200 to 8,000 US dollars – an increase of nearly 4,000 per cent."
“As with the detention centre on Manus Island, in Papua New Guinea, the Australian government is trying to censor any embarrassing information about the way it treats refugees. In the process of externalizing the asylum-seeker issue, it is even managing to delegate responsibility for censorship and discriminatory measures against the media.
"Reporters Without Borders already criticized the Australian government’s policy of denying journalists access to its detention centres in 2011 and 2012."
There is a report about the timeline of the unrest (not on Australian media yet?) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/manus-island-unrest-sparked-rio... Probably not all that great there.. Mrs. Bishop maintains there would be a procedure to deal with refugees in place. Truth is, there is not. For whom do Australians maintain this ignorance of facts. What is the purpose? The timeline above shows it brewing, and it matches my prediction stated on this list months earlier: (Quoting myself on the 12th Dec. 2013)
''I have lived in war zones, with bombs and explosions. I have never experienced what I am experiencing here with the uncertainty … If we had died in the ocean, that would have been better.''
This is from an Iraqi refugee hanging out to dry on Manus Island. .. It is inhumane, damaging and killing people.
The world (outside a Rupert dominated mini universe, the flat Earth country Australia) sees all of this differently. You have other resources - use them to find out and judge what your governments are doing. Regards Peter
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