
On Tuesday, 1 August 2017 9:24:03 AM AEST Rick Moen via luv-talk wrote:
This would all be very amusing if the US was a small country without a nuclear arsenal...
FYI, ever since an occasion when Richard Nixon was drunk and erratic, there's been a silent arrangement to ensure that the President cannot _actually_ just to decide to nuke Paraguay because he or she is a wack-a-doodle.
Even if we could be certain that was the case (and it's not something I would choose to stake my life on), there's still the issue that tweets from the US president are taken a lot more seriously than anything a leader of a non- nuclear country might have to say.
He's religious! That appeals to Republicans!
You're _utterly_ missing my point. What sort of extreme psychological weirdness does it take, such that the only thing you can say when you
What psychological weirdness does it take to be a Republican?
I expect his actions to result in some form of nuclear weapon deployed in the US (probably a dirty bomb). So far he has been in the job for 6 months without that happening, he is doing well. But a nuclear reaction to some action of Trumps may be delayed by some months or years.
That seems more than a little melodramatic. The only people he's really induced special hatred in is the 72.8% of the USA electorate who didn't vote for him and Vice-President Torquemada. He hasn't even gotten his act together to foment another war, yet. He's been historically ineffective even at doing just about everything. So, actually, what I
Tweeting about North Korea is one of the ways that he can trigger a nuclear reaction. Maybe Kim Jong-un won't be crazy enough to launch a ICBM at the US (but I wouldn't bet on that), maybe he would instead send spies to smuggle a dirty bomb into the US (which is technically a lot easier than launching an ICBM). Maybe Trump will mess things up in Kashmir, there are enough factions on all sides of that dispute that there's probably someone who wouldn't stop at using a dirty bomb. Both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons so it's plausible that someone in one of those governments could allow a paramilitary group to get some high level nuclear waste. China seems to have a stable government and wouldn't do anything serious and obvious against the US. But if Trump keeps messing with Taiwan the Chinese government might incite Kim Jong-un or some other crazy person to do something. Trump seems to have done something to provoke people in every one of the world's trouble spots apart from Northern Ireland. But maybe I missed some news about Northern Ireland. There are many millions of people all around the world who didn't like what the US was doing even when run by someone as competent as Obama. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Quoting russell@coker.com.au (russell@coker.com.au): [stuff] No substance, no comment.
What psychological weirdness does it take to be a Republican?
Repeatedly ignoring my rather simple, lucid point, and instead pretending to reply but providing only pointless irrelevant blather, utterly wastes your time and mine. I'm busy.
Tweeting about North Korea is one of the ways that he can trigger a nuclear reaction.
Remember the way WWIII was triggered in 1984 when Ronald Reagan said on open mic, during a sound checK, 'My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.' No, I don't, either. But if you want to pointlessly and melodramatically theorise, have fun. I'll probably just keep hitting 'd'. I voted against these bozos (http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/election-2016-11-08.html#pres), and, short of California seceding (and practicing duck'n'cover), we'll just have to wait for new developments.

On 02/08/17 15:11, Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
Trump seems to have done something to provoke people in every one of the world's trouble spots apart from Northern Ireland. But maybe I missed some news about Northern Ireland.
The Brexiters have managed to screw that one up, all on their own.

Quoting Paul Dwerryhouse (paul@dwerryhouse.com.au):
The Brexiters have managed to screw that one up, all on their own.
I keep having a daydream that Sinn Féin on both sides of the border prove persuasive (they've been increasingly managing that, to the astonishment of many), the Unionists decide a peaceful deal with the south is an acceptable means of remaining in the EU, as a result of which NI and Scotland withdraw from the 1800 union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1800), invite a spare member of the old Stuart monarchy to be a constitutional monarch, and name their new country the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland. Meanwhile, England and Wales rename themselves the Kingdom of Little Britain. They can get Boris Johnson to be combination PM and court jester. Just a dream. In our reality, NI is sinking into delusion and corruption under the DUP (which remains Euroskeptic).

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:17:20AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Meanwhile, England and Wales rename themselves the Kingdom of Little Britain. They can get Boris Johnson to be combination PM and court jester.
Boris Johnson can be the only PM in the village. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>

Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
Tweeting about North Korea is one of the ways that he can trigger a nuclear reaction. Maybe Kim Jong-un won't be crazy enough to launch a ICBM at the US (but I wouldn't bet on that), maybe he would instead send spies to smuggle a dirty bomb into the US (which is technically a lot easier than launching an ICBM).
When it comes to CBRN, R is cheaper and easier than N, but B is even cheaper and easier. C is cheapest and easiest; it was within reach of a 2000-man organization, 20 years ago (Aum Shinrikyo). IMO if your threat model focuses on N and R, you're doing it wrong.
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Craig Sanders
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Paul Dwerryhouse
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Rick Moen
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Russell Coker
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