Re: [luv-talk] local government
Quoting "Michael Scott" <luv@inoz.net>
One big difference is that migrants immigrated to Australia, whereas Europeans encroached on Aboriginal territory (originally). Aborigines didn't CHOOSE to come here and integrate into Australian culture. Immigrants did.
Alcohol is an issue in a great deal of Aboriginal society, but it, too, was introduced by Europeans.
That is true. But does it have to change how to deal with the problem at hand? Imagine - You have a mess and have to fix it - You have a proven method to fix it - You tried many other ways since 1967 and failed If I have a "mess" in my network, as I had yesterday, I do not care who caused it, I am working on a solution. I would not think: Well, that was Lisa's problem this time, so I do not try the normal way to fix it, I just walk over and give her a hug so she may feel better;-) The mess does not disappear that way.
If recognition of the Aboriginal people as the first Australians will help, without harming the body of the constitution, I'm all for it and I don't see any harm in it, only good.
If it means that I have to give a hug to Lisa every time, and are not allowed to fix her computer problem? Regards Peter
I agree that we should try to fix the problem, and I agree that fixing the alcohol situation is part of it. I also think that we should respect the fact that WE introduced part of the problem and our past "efforts" at fixing the problems have been less than successful (think stolen generations). As regards the recognition of Aborigines in the constitution, I believe that should effectively be "the end of it" as far as "hugs" are concerned. We've apologised and we've recognised. Regards, Michael On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Petros <Petros.Listig@fdrive.com.au>wrote:
Quoting "Michael Scott" <luv@inoz.net>
One big difference is that migrants immigrated to Australia, whereas Europeans encroached on Aboriginal territory (originally). Aborigines didn't CHOOSE to come here and integrate into Australian culture. Immigrants did.
Alcohol is an issue in a great deal of Aboriginal society, but it, too, was introduced by Europeans.
That is true.
But does it have to change how to deal with the problem at hand?
Imagine
- You have a mess and have to fix it - You have a proven method to fix it - You tried many other ways since 1967 and failed
If I have a "mess" in my network, as I had yesterday, I do not care who caused it, I am working on a solution.
I would not think: Well, that was Lisa's problem this time, so I do not try the normal way to fix it, I just walk over and give her a hug so she may feel better;-)
The mess does not disappear that way.
If recognition of the Aboriginal people as the first Australians will help, without harming the body of the constitution, I'm all for it and I don't see any harm in it, only good.
If it means that I have to give a hug to Lisa every time, and are not allowed to fix her computer problem?
Regards Peter
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I agree that we should try to fix the problem, and I agree that fixing the alcohol situation is part of it. I also think that we should respect the fact that WE introduced part of the problem and our past "efforts" at fixing the problems have been less than successful (think stolen generations). As regards the recognition of Aborigines in the constitution, I believe that should effectively be "the end of it" as far as "hugs" are concerned. We've apologised and we've recognised. Regards, Michael On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Petros <Petros.Listig@fdrive.com.au>wrote:
Quoting "Michael Scott" <luv@inoz.net>
One big difference is that migrants immigrated to Australia, whereas Europeans encroached on Aboriginal territory (originally). Aborigines didn't CHOOSE to come here and integrate into Australian culture. Immigrants did.
Alcohol is an issue in a great deal of Aboriginal society, but it, too, was introduced by Europeans.
That is true.
But does it have to change how to deal with the problem at hand?
Imagine
- You have a mess and have to fix it - You have a proven method to fix it - You tried many other ways since 1967 and failed
If I have a "mess" in my network, as I had yesterday, I do not care who caused it, I am working on a solution.
I would not think: Well, that was Lisa's problem this time, so I do not try the normal way to fix it, I just walk over and give her a hug so she may feel better;-)
The mess does not disappear that way.
If recognition of the Aboriginal people as the first Australians will help, without harming the body of the constitution, I'm all for it and I don't see any harm in it, only good.
If it means that I have to give a hug to Lisa every time, and are not allowed to fix her computer problem?
Regards Peter
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