Re: [luv-talk] Global warming and survivalism (fork from Linux != Poltics)
From: "Jason White" <jason@jasonjgw.net>
I think the idea for human enhancement of intelligence, though, would be to increase IQ biologically if appropriate means (genetic selection of children,gene therapy, drugs or whatever) were available.
I do not think we have appropriate social mechanisms to do this reasonably well. The selection/improvement criteria would be hijacked pretty quickly to clone an army of "desired subjects". Anyway, I know a few people who are not "fully normed". They are among the most fascinating people I met. I just spent a weekend with a "borrowed" child camping with us. He is very difficult, according to many. I ignored half of the advice and we all had a pretty good weekend with him! In your "grand plan" he would not exist, maybe.. Regards Peter
On 24/04/2014 4:57 PM, Peter Ross wrote:
From: "Jason White" <jason@jasonjgw.net>
I think the idea for human enhancement of intelligence, though, would be to increase IQ biologically if appropriate means (genetic selection of children,gene therapy, drugs or whatever) were available.
I do not think we have appropriate social mechanisms to do this reasonably well. The selection/improvement criteria would be hijacked pretty quickly to clone an army of "desired subjects".
Anyway, I know a few people who are not "fully normed". They are among the most fascinating people I met.
I just spent a weekend with a "borrowed" child camping with us. He is very difficult, according to many.
I ignored half of the advice and we all had a pretty good weekend with him!
In your "grand plan" he would not exist, maybe..
What a great story Peter, thank you. I'm also against /master/ race science too and people whom would rather be dead after a life changing event / disease; I believe that every body has something to offer, even when less able than they once were and especially those that were never so "able" in the first place -- such people are far more inspiring than those /suffering/ first world problems.... another bucket of worms for this morphing thread. ;-) Cheers A.
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
On 24/04/2014 4:57 PM, Peter Ross wrote:
From: "Jason White" <jason@jasonjgw.net>
I think the idea for human enhancement of intelligence, though, would be to increase IQ biologically if appropriate means (genetic selection of children,gene therapy, drugs or whatever) were available.
I do not think we have appropriate social mechanisms to do this reasonably well. The selection/improvement criteria would be hijacked pretty quickly to clone an army of "desired subjects".
Anyway, I know a few people who are not "fully normed". They are among the most fascinating people I met.
I just spent a weekend with a "borrowed" child camping with us. He is very difficult, according to many.
I ignored half of the advice and we all had a pretty good weekend with him!
In your "grand plan" he would not exist, maybe..
What a great story Peter, thank you.
I'm also against /master/ race science too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Eugenics does not necessarily mean "I am a Nazi", any more than artificial selection means necessarily means GM.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:00 Trent W. Buck wrote:
I just spent a weekend with a "borrowed" child camping with us. He is very difficult, according to many.
I ignored half of the advice and we all had a pretty good weekend with him!
In your "grand plan" he would not exist, maybe..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Asperger The Wikipedia page for Hans Asperger doesn't mention his efforts to convince the Nazis to refrain from killing kids who were like me.
What a great story Peter, thank you.
I'm also against /master/ race science too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Eugenics does not necessarily mean "I am a Nazi", any more than artificial selection means necessarily means GM.
Selection doesn't mean GM at all. By definition GM is about changing existing DNA instead of selective breeding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_sterilisation#United_States While eugenics doesn't necessarily imply Nazi science, it often ends up that way. The eugenic campaigns in other countries generally haven't worked well. The above URL documents eugenics in the US occurring in the early 80's and involving racial discrimination. If you read the Wikipedia page you cited you'll discover that it's about INAPPROPRIATE comparisons. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
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