Hello All, I have several willow tree stumps that I wish to remove. As they are in ground where I want to put the footings for a carport, and wish the ground relatively undisturbed, I do not want to dig them out, or have them ground up. I do know that Nitric Acid will convert the cellulose to cellulose nitrate, gun cotton, but I am looking for a way to not have all the cellulose to go that way, I want it to burn, not go bang. I have read somewhere about a suitable mix poured into holes drilled into the stump, and I do recall the Nitric acid, and that there was something else. If anyone can make suitable suggestions, or point to the process, I would be very grateful. Regards, Mark Trickett
Have you considered a stump grinder? On 8 January 2017 at 21:51, Mark Trickett via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hello All,
I have several willow tree stumps that I wish to remove. As they are in ground where I want to put the footings for a carport, and wish the ground relatively undisturbed, I do not want to dig them out, or have them ground up. I do know that Nitric Acid will convert the cellulose to cellulose nitrate, gun cotton, but I am looking for a way to not have all the cellulose to go that way, I want it to burn, not go bang.
I have read somewhere about a suitable mix poured into holes drilled into the stump, and I do recall the Nitric acid, and that there was something else. If anyone can make suitable suggestions, or point to the process, I would be very grateful.
Regards,
Mark Trickett _______________________________________________ luv-talk mailing list luv-talk@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-talk
-- Colin Fee tfeccles@gmail.com
Hello Colin and Paul, There are reasons for not stump grinding. I am well aware of the process and getting someone in, but I do have reason to not disturb things at this point. It is not cheap, and I will need the money for the concrete and other aspects of coping with some "interesting" features of the project. There will be significant excavation at a later stage, with a lot of rock fill. Broken rock is preferred as it will lock, but river rubble will serve if that is what is available and affordable. Regards, Mark Trickett On 1/9/17, Colin Fee via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Have you considered a stump grinder?
On 8 January 2017 at 21:51, Mark Trickett via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hello All,
I have several willow tree stumps that I wish to remove. As they are in ground where I want to put the footings for a carport, and wish the ground relatively undisturbed, I do not want to dig them out, or have them ground up. I do know that Nitric Acid will convert the cellulose to cellulose nitrate, gun cotton, but I am looking for a way to not have all the cellulose to go that way, I want it to burn, not go bang.
I have read somewhere about a suitable mix poured into holes drilled into the stump, and I do recall the Nitric acid, and that there was something else. If anyone can make suitable suggestions, or point to the process, I would be very grateful.
Regards,
Mark Trickett _______________________________________________ luv-talk mailing list luv-talk@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-talk
-- Colin Fee tfeccles@gmail.com
Mark Trickett via luv-talk wrote:
Hello Colin and Paul,
There are reasons for not stump grinding. I am well aware of the process and getting someone in, but I do have reason to not disturb things at this point.
Mark Given the requirement that things are not too disturbed; probably "pulling" the stump is not a solution either ! eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaPk8mraa8 I have always wondered why someone hasn't invented some kind of machine; which encircles the offending stump and incrementally jacks the stump out in a rotory process; allowing "pulling" of really large stumps (1m - 1.5 m dia) regards Rohan Mcleod
It
Quoting Rohan McLeod (rhn@jeack.com.au):
Given the requirement that things are not too disturbed; probably "pulling" the stump is not a solution either ! eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaPk8mraa8
Such efforts occasionally end up like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RfAYnCxkK0 -- Cheers, "If God dwells inside us, as some people say, I sure hope Rick Moen He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting!" rick@linuxmafia.com -- Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy McQ! (4x80)
On 09/01/17 13:42, Rohan McLeod via luv-talk wrote:
Given the requirement that things are not too disturbed; probably "pulling" the stump is not a solution either ! eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaPk8mraa8
Or this (which I think won't be useful for a willow tree) tree mover: https://youtu.be/hEkZk8dagzQ I would think that a willow tree root system would be very much like a weed and it will grow back if it isn't completely removed or effectively neutered. Perhaps this search would be useful: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fully+remove+willow+tree A.
Andrew McGlashan via luv-talk wrote:
Very cute; I wonder though 1/ how well it would go in rocky ground ? 2/ how often large trees survive the trauma of the illustrated move ?
regards Rohan McLeod
none of the chemical methods that would work would be either safe nor cheap. Not to mention soil contamination if you can burn it out, that definitely works - be aware the fire will burn for about 3 days underground and follow the roots. suitable for the countryside in winter, but less so for suburban housing. cutting digging and manually removing the stump is probably the cheapest option if your labour is free. high pressure water helps a lot if there is drainage, or a sump pump. explosives work... but are also not cheap, and not suitable for an urban environment. WRT aggregate - you really want angular rock for interlocking and stability. Consider recycled brick - cheaper than road agg, has similar properties. without knowing the specifics of the problem, I can't advise better. On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Mark Trickett via luv-talk < luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hello All,
I have several willow tree stumps that I wish to remove. As they are in ground where I want to put the footings for a carport, and wish the ground relatively undisturbed, I do not want to dig them out, or have them ground up. I do know that Nitric Acid will convert the cellulose to cellulose nitrate, gun cotton, but I am looking for a way to not have all the cellulose to go that way, I want it to burn, not go bang.
I have read somewhere about a suitable mix poured into holes drilled into the stump, and I do recall the Nitric acid, and that there was something else. If anyone can make suitable suggestions, or point to the process, I would be very grateful.
Regards,
Mark Trickett _______________________________________________ luv-talk mailing list luv-talk@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-talk
-- Dr Paul van den Bergen
participants (6)
-
Andrew McGlashan -
Colin Fee -
Mark Trickett -
Paul van den Bergen -
Rick Moen -
Rohan McLeod