Hello Peter, On 10/28/18, Peter Ross via luv-talk <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au> wrote: Until we can put the politicians there for an undetermined time, and their advisors is more to the point, they will not face the truth. Morrison is a Pentecostal, and overtly claims to be Christian. Were he really Christian, he would behave otherwise. Howard was less public in claims of religion, but also double faced. Abbot was also exceptionally dishonest. Rudd and Gillard are not off the hook, but less culpable to a degree. Background Briefing this morning was on the money, looked at the kids on Naru, and their psychological condition, and the reports and predictions. It was foreseen and forecast. Their deaths and other less fatal harms were deliberate. It is worse than drowning at sea, that does not spin out over years, and these people have been found to be genuine refugees. Regards, Mark Trickett