Open Source in Dutch Education System
Find below link to an article and petition in favour of Open Source in Dutch Education system. Sounds like a familiar story over there too!! http://www.janstedehouder.nl/2011/09/28/make-the-use-of-open-standards-in-ed... Perhaps we could try similar? Daniel. -- ---------------------------------------- Daniel Jitnah Melbourne, Australia e: djitnah@greenwareit.com.au w: www.greenwareit.com.au SIP: dj-git@ekiga.net ---------------------------------------- ** For All your Linux, Open Source and IT requirements visit: www.greenwareit.com.au ** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. For All your Open Source and IT requirements see: www.greenwareit.com.au
Daniel Jitnah <djitnah@greenwareit.com.au> wrote:
Find below link to an article and petition in favour of Open Source in Dutch Education system. Sounds like a familiar story over there too!!
http://www.janstedehouder.nl/2011/09/28/make-the-use-of-open-standards-in-ed...
Perhaps we could try similar?
It is noted in the article that the government of the Netherlands already has a policy favourable to "open-source". I don't know, in the end, to what extent this makes the specific case at issue easier to argue. To my knowledge, no Australian government has instituted an "open-source" policy; the situation in the Netherlands is better to this extent. Obviously, this doesn't negate the value of the proposed campaigning strategy; the point, rather, is that the two policy environments are relevantly different.
Hi Daniel ----- Original Message -----
Find below link to an article and petition in favour of Open Source in Dutch Education system. Sounds like a familiar story over there too!!
http://www.janstedehouder.nl/2011/09/28/make-the-use-of-open-standards-in-ed...
Perhaps we could try similar?
Related things have been discussed in OSIA and elsewhere. You actually misquote the issue and thus miss what the strategy actually is. You refer to "Open Source". The article does not, and nor does the petition. They focus on open standards (/formats) and getting away from product-specific skills. Both are defensible positions, and OSS does not have to come in to it. Indeed it tends to benefit OSS, but not necessarily exclusively so and it's up to vendors to decide whether they want to play by the more enlightened rules. It's similar to when AGIMO published its acquisition policy which required departments to take cost-of-decomissioning into account. Essentially that comes to an issue about open standards/formats, as when you decomission product X and it is the only thing that can read that format, then you either need to keep the product and its runtime environment available (hardware and people with the necessary skillset), or engage in a conversion - both are costly, and that was the nifty bit. But it's a sane thing to consider even if you have no affinity for OSS. As discused before, promoting OSS on its own tends to not do that well... but when focusing on open standards, formats and such, OSS benefits greatly and so does the environment in general. Aims and means... Regards, Arjen. -- Exec.Director @ Open Query (http://openquery.com) MySQL services Sane business strategy explorations at http://Upstarta.biz Personal blog at http://lentz.com.au/blog/
HI Arjen Thanks for the comment.
http://www.janstedehouder.nl/2011/09/28/make-the-use-of-open-standards-in-ed...
Perhaps we could try similar?
Related things have been discussed in OSIA and elsewhere. You actually misquote the issue and thus miss what the strategy actually is.
You refer to "Open Source". The article does not, and nor does the petition.
I think my link to Open Source Software was made reference in the article about how the use Microsoft software was affecting data openness and data sharing. Perhaps I should have made that point - but you said its been debated many times on newslist before! And the other motivation for sharing the link was to perhaps get a few more people sign the petition as I have. Anyway, while am here ... Steve Dalton mentioned to me that you may be available to give a presentation at the OSIA-OSDC MiniConf on 14 Nov - would you be interested in doing this? CFP for papers has been out, but we reserved the right to invite speakers. Would you please consider yourself invited? Cheers Daniel.
They focus on open standards (/formats) and getting away from product-specific skills. Both are defensible positions, and OSS does not have to come in to it. Indeed it tends to benefit OSS, but not necessarily exclusively so and it's up to vendors to decide whether they want to play by the more enlightened rules.
It's similar to when AGIMO published its acquisition policy which required departments to take cost-of-decomissioning into account. Essentially that comes to an issue about open standards/formats, as when you decomission product X and it is the only thing that can read that format, then you either need to keep the product and its runtime environment available (hardware and people with the necessary skillset), or engage in a conversion - both are costly, and that was the nifty bit. But it's a sane thing to consider even if you have no affinity for OSS.
As discused before, promoting OSS on its own tends to not do that well... but when focusing on open standards, formats and such, OSS benefits greatly and so does the environment in general. Aims and means...
Regards, Arjen.
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On 05/10/11 11:12, Daniel Jitnah wrote: BIG OOPSSS was not meat to respond to list, but to sender only !!! That what happens when email was recieved as emailed to me directly and cc'd to list - so I responded seeing it came from author and not from list ... but did not notice the cc link !! Uuughs!! Daniel.
HI Arjen
Thanks for the comment.
http://www.janstedehouder.nl/2011/09/28/make-the-use-of-open-standards-in-ed...
Perhaps we could try similar? Related things have been discussed in OSIA and elsewhere. You actually misquote the issue and thus miss what the strategy actually is.
You refer to "Open Source". The article does not, and nor does the petition. I think my link to Open Source Software was made reference in the article about how the use Microsoft software was affecting data openness and data sharing. Perhaps I should have made that point - but you said its been debated many times on newslist before! And the other motivation for sharing the link was to perhaps get a few more people sign the petition as I have.
Anyway, while am here ... Steve Dalton mentioned to me that you may be available to give a presentation at the OSIA-OSDC MiniConf on 14 Nov - would you be interested in doing this? CFP for papers has been out, but we reserved the right to invite speakers. Would you please consider yourself invited?
Cheers Daniel.
They focus on open standards (/formats) and getting away from product-specific skills. Both are defensible positions, and OSS does not have to come in to it. Indeed it tends to benefit OSS, but not necessarily exclusively so and it's up to vendors to decide whether they want to play by the more enlightened rules.
It's similar to when AGIMO published its acquisition policy which required departments to take cost-of-decomissioning into account. Essentially that comes to an issue about open standards/formats, as when you decomission product X and it is the only thing that can read that format, then you either need to keep the product and its runtime environment available (hardware and people with the necessary skillset), or engage in a conversion - both are costly, and that was the nifty bit. But it's a sane thing to consider even if you have no affinity for OSS.
As discused before, promoting OSS on its own tends to not do that well... but when focusing on open standards, formats and such, OSS benefits greatly and so does the environment in general. Aims and means...
Regards, Arjen.
-- ---------------------------------------- Daniel Jitnah Melbourne, Australia e: djitnah@greenwareit.com.au w: www.greenwareit.com.au SIP: dj-git@ekiga.net ---------------------------------------- ** For All your Linux, Open Source and IT requirements visit: www.greenwareit.com.au ** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. For All your Open Source and IT requirements see: www.greenwareit.com.au
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