Re: [luv-talk] Action Needed: What we can do to stop the data retention bill in the next few days
From: "Davor Balder" <dbalder@ozemail.com.au>
I believe there are some relatively small political forces that would be greatly affected by this issue (the Pirate Party?). There could be other similar groups. The Pirate Party has unfortunate name, in my opinion.
The Greens, amongst others? http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/category/issues-tags/data-retention "The Australian Greens, the Liberal Democratic Party and Senator Nick Xenophon have teamed up to hold an event in Parliament House during the next Senate sitting week to step up the campaign against the Government’s proposed mandatory data retention legislation." Maybe, in general, people in Australia should be more inclined to listen to arguments than "Liberals are good for the economy", "Greens are extremists" and make some effort to figure out what they really get and vote for. It's on the same level than "my" consultants inconsulting me that Microsoft is standard and Oracle a tiny fringe company nobody bothers to work with. And Linux is a "strange thing" anyway. Just avoid it. Regards Peter
Peter Ross wrote:
From: "Davor Balder" <dbalder@ozemail.com.au>
I believe there are some relatively small political forces that would be greatly affected by this issue (the Pirate Party?). There could be other similar groups. The Pirate Party has unfortunate name, in my opinion.
The Greens, amongst others?
http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/category/issues-tags/data-retention
"The Australian Greens, the Liberal Democratic Party and Senator Nick Xenophon have teamed up to hold an event in Parliament House during the next Senate sitting week to step up the campaign against the Government’s proposed mandatory data retention legislation."
Media Watch told me that the Greens were the only party to vote against the bill that lets ASIO trump right-to-know and gaol journalists for a decade if they're politically inconvenient. Apparently now if you want to publish a story (and that includes bloggers &c), you have to ring ASIO first and ask if it's OK with them.
On 6/11/2014 12:00 PM, Trent W. Buck wrote:
Apparently now if you want to publish a story (and that includes bloggers &c), you have to ring ASIO first and ask if it's OK with them.
Okay, so all bloggers will have to report to Russia, ummm ASIO. :shakes head more and more: :(
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 12:00:10PM +1100 Trent W. Buck said:
Peter Ross wrote:
From: "Davor Balder" <dbalder@ozemail.com.au>
I believe there are some relatively small political forces that would be greatly affected by this issue (the Pirate Party?). There could be other similar groups. The Pirate Party has unfortunate name, in my opinion.
The Greens, amongst others?
http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/category/issues-tags/data-retention
"The Australian Greens, the Liberal Democratic Party and Senator Nick Xenophon have teamed up to hold an event in Parliament House during the next Senate sitting week to step up the campaign against the Government’s proposed mandatory data retention legislation."
Media Watch told me that the Greens were the only party to vote against the bill that lets ASIO trump right-to-know and gaol journalists for a decade if they're politically inconvenient.
Apparently now if you want to publish a story (and that includes bloggers &c), you have to ring ASIO first and ask if it's OK with them.
Personal opinions below. There will be changes to this law if only for the reason that News Corporation is agitating for them. Remember Arthur Sinodinos refusing to step aside from his cabinet post when he was asked to front the NSW ICAC? The same morning that the Australian had an opinion piece headlined "Senator, it's time to stand aside", Sinodinos bit the bullet. He has not got back into the cabinet and probably never will. Sam
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