Re: [luv-talk] Fwd: Victorian Liberals want to privatise ABC and SBS

Hi, quality TV is part of civilisation, I think. I hope more people share this view and become active before a valuable aspect of my family's and other people's life gets destroyed, just because we are silent all the time. The silence of the Australian public is sometimes worrying, I find. That makes the loud (and most of them paid) voices so powerful. I expected some remarks (I am not using it etc. and the "bias" thing) Regards Peter

On Thu, 23 May 2013, Petros <Petros.Listig@fdrive.com.au> wrote:
quality TV is part of civilisation, I think.
I hope more people share this view and become active before a valuable aspect of my family's and other people's life gets destroyed, just because we are silent all the time.
I disagree. TV is a transient thing based on the forms of communication that were practical decades ago. If the technology existed for things like Skype and Youtube in 1930 then TV as we know it would never have existed. The ABC and the SBS provide a lot of great content. But in the long term that won't be via TV. I predict that the bandwidth currently allocated for broadcast TV will be allocated to mobile phones within 30 years. On Thu, 23 May 2013, "Pidgorny, Slav (GEUS)" <slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Speaking from the other side of the political spectrum (multiple labels are available in this thread), I pay too, but I don't want to. Therefore I will support plans to stop spending on state television and will vote accordingly.
There's a lot of selfishness on that side of the political spectrum. People want to pay for nothing other than the bare minimum of services that they currently use. That's not how a functional society works. A government that effectively provides services will provide many services that are of use to different people, there will be almost no-one who uses the majority of government services at any stage in their life. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
I disagree. TV is a transient thing based on the forms of communication that were practical decades ago. If the technology existed for things like Skype and Youtube in 1930 then TV as we know it would never have existed.
Exactly.
The ABC and the SBS provide a lot of great content. But in the long term that won't be via TV. I predict that the bandwidth currently allocated for broadcast TV will be allocated to mobile phones within 30 years.
I hope you are right. The question about the ABC is really a question about the content, not the transmission medium or even broadcast compared with video/audio on demand.
On Thu, 23 May 2013, "Pidgorny, Slav (GEUS)" <slav.pidgorny@anz.com> wrote:
Speaking from the other side of the political spectrum (multiple labels are available in this thread), I pay too, but I don't want to. Therefore I will support plans to stop spending on state television and will vote accordingly.
There's a lot of selfishness on that side of the political spectrum. People want to pay for nothing other than the bare minimum of services that they currently use.
That's a fair observation. I've recently been reading Daniel Stedman Jones, Masters of the Universe: Hayek, Friedman and the Birth of Neoliberal Politics. This book traces the intellectual and political history of the neoliberal movement, revealing the concerns that led to its emergence during World War II. Having read this, I can better understand some of the reasons and motivations of the more intelligent of those on that side of the political spectrum. I disagree with them fundamentally in important respects (I'm not persuaded that I should move to that side of the spectrum), but it's helpful to understand what their views are and why they hold them.
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Jason White
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Petros
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Russell Coker