
Hello, Just wondering what a good cordless VOIP solution is? Last time I asked somewhere, the Gigaset was recommended. Think I might have the C610 IIRC (can't see how to double check). However I am now finding that the batteries don't last - possibly due to memory affect. I tried getting more expensive AA batteries, but it hasn't helped. Seems like this might be a common problem, seems like the recommendation is not to leave the phones on the chargers. Which means trying to manage when batteries are going flat and recharge them before they go dead flat. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27397159-Gigaset-C610H-Batteries~start=30 Looking at Gigaset's website, I am somewhat overwealmed with choices, and there doesn't seem to be any easy way of identifying the differences between the different model numbers. e.g. what does the C, E, S, SL, CL prefix mean. Or if any have better battery solutions then what I already have. http://www.gigaset.com/hq_en/telephones/voip-phones/ So was wondering if anybody could suggest alternate solutions? Thanks -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 08:15:19PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Just wondering what a good cordless VOIP solution is?
How about an old android phone? Doesn't need a SIM card, just WIFI and CSIP or similar to connect to your Asterisk server. If you have one that can be rooted and install Lineage or some other AOSP "ROM" on it, you won't have to run proprietary software at all. A cheap new one would work too, and you can get them for less than some gigaset handsets. You can probably beg discarded phones gathering dust in drawers from people on the upgrade treadmill. BTW, I've got some gigaset handsets (C470 and an A510H) and an old android phone set up as a SIP handset. The android phone is far superior. If I cared enough about it, I'd probably scrounge up a few old phones and get rid of the gigaset stuff entirely. When I eventually get around to getting a new mobile phone, my current one will become another SIP-only handset (it currently runs CSIP over WIFI when I'm home...it could also run encrypted SIP over mobile, but I don't bother). craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>

Craig Sanders via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> writes:
BTW, I've got some gigaset handsets (C470 and an A510H) and an old android phone set up as a SIP handset. The android phone is far superior. If I cared enough about it, I'd probably scrounge up a few old phones and get rid of the gigaset stuff entirely.
What software do you use? I have found recently that csipsimple is not always reliable - especially with outgoing calls. It has a habbit of weird behaviour (e.g. after hanging up sip connection it will immediately make an outgoing mobile connection to the same number), and not always reliable (displays "calling" for outgoing calls with no ringing indication even though the call has actually been answered, leaving the caller wondering what is going on) and sometimes completely crashes during calls. Last update appears to be 2014, in Google Play store. I seem to recall another piece of software (I can't recall the name) that looked good on the surface, but had a fundemental problem with tones received while making outgoing calls (or something like that) and the author wasn't interested in fixing ("it works for me"). -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

Brian May via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
What software do you use?
I have found recently that csipsimple is not always reliable - especially with outgoing calls. It has a habbit of weird behaviour (e.g. after hanging up sip connection it will immediately make an outgoing mobile connection to the same number), and not always reliable (displays "calling" for outgoing calls with no ringing indication even though the call has actually been answered, leaving the caller wondering what is going on) and sometimes completely crashes during calls. Last update appears to be 2014, in Google Play store.
When I last used an Android device (admittedly three years ago, but we are talking about "old" in this thread), the SIP support was part of the operating system - it was not provided by an app. For reference, the device was a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I suspect the SIP implementation and dialer integration was provided by Google, not Samsung.

Jason White via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> writes:
When I last used an Android device (admittedly three years ago, but we are talking about "old" in this thread), the SIP support was part of the operating system - it was not provided by an app. For reference, the device was a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I suspect the SIP implementation and dialer integration was provided by Google, not Samsung.
Yes, finally found it. Noticed something weird - for outgoing calls, after the callee answers, the caller hears an unexpected ring tone. Probably means the caller may miss the callee answering the phone. Apart from that, it seems fine - so far. linphone also seems good, but on one phone (a One Plus 5) after receiving a phone call you have no receive audio. Not a codec issue, the same codec works for outgoing calls. linphone also reports it is sending/receiving audio fine at expected speeds. If you push the "video" button, the video fails, but audio comes good. Something to do with audio control on the phone I think. -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

Brian May via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Sorry, i missed your original message on the 4th. It was sent direct to my server rather than via the list and I've configured my MTA to block mail with a .xyz domain in the HELO or SMTP envelope (along with .biz, .win, .website, .online, .sex, .club, .top, .click, .markets, .shop, .today, and several others I've added as spammers started using them). Yours is the first non-spam mail from a .xyz domain that I've ever seen. just found this in my mail.log: Dec 4 10:35:59 taz postfix/smtpd[23925]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mx.kolabnow.com[95.128.36.41]: 550 5.7.1 <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz>: Sender address rejected: spamtld; from=<brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> to=<cas@taz.net.au> proto=ESMTP helo=<mx.kolabnow.com> I've now added the following overrides: linuxpenguins.xyz permit_auth_destination .linuxpenguins.xyz permit_auth_destination
What software do you use?
csipsimple. Mostly because it was the first (only?) GPL SIP client I found.
I have found recently that csipsimple is not always reliable - especially with outgoing calls. It has a habbit of weird behaviour
I've never had a problem with it...but my phone usage is very light. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>

Craig Sanders via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> writes:
I've now added the following overrides:
linuxpenguins.xyz permit_auth_destination .linuxpenguins.xyz permit_auth_destination
Ok, thanks.
csipsimple. Mostly because it was the first (only?) GPL SIP client I found.
I have found recently that csipsimple is not always reliable - especially with outgoing calls. It has a habbit of weird behaviour
I've never had a problem with it...but my phone usage is very light.
I have found that it is perfect for incoming calls, but unusable for outgoing calls. It keeps crashing on outgoing calls, typically after the callee has hang up. i.e. one of the worst possible failure times. Also been years since the last release. I tried the nightly builds but got the exact same failure. linphone looks really good. Making outgoing calls works perfectly. However on incoming calls - and only incoming calls - the received volume is very weak. Sometimes I simply cannot hear the other end. Unless I use speaker phone in which case it comes good. This is with call volume on maximum. For some reason the built in SIP client doesn't seem to work with OpenVPN. Can't connect to the remote SIP server. I haven't tried debugging yet (and I suspect my debugging options are limited). -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/
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