<thinks> (Hmm this existing thread kinda fits what I came here to post about ... Hey! Why are my thoughts appearing in this post! Must be SPYS!) On Fri, 14/8/15, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [luv-talk] spying [SNIP! ] ...  At the moment, my wife and I are actually on the road to Seattle, Washington state, USA, where there's a well-known Scandinavian neighbourhood called Ballard. ...   [SNIP! ] (Sorry if I misunderstood and it's Mr. Wallis that's gone to throw eggs at Microso.. er, I mean that is visiting Seattle! D.E.P) _______________________________________________ Ahem! On the general topic of being less spied upon ... System issues aside, we & our contacts can "social network" with more privacy than the likes of Facebook, Google and Microsoft or the advertisers they study us for want us to have. By instead using services and products such as Krowd, Matrix, IOS/AltMe and the soon-to-be-rebranded Red Matrix. "Hubzilla" https://github.com/redmatrix/hubzilla is the more efficient (finalising development & testing) re-engineering of the "Red Matrix" JSON & PHP based platform for *n?x based websites to securely connect as "Hubz" via "Zot Protocol". Somewhat comparable to the same developer's "Friendica, also Diaspora, Matrix, Pump.io, GNU social, possibly Carl Sassenrath's IOS & AltME etc. but Zot protocol is said to give it unique capabilities. "Nomadic Identity" enables a Red Matrix/Hubzilla member to use any services from any Hub, access all their content even if their original Hub is down and control sharing of any datum to particular individuals, whichever Hub they try to access the datum from. When the code is merged soonish the whole thing will be rebranded as "Hubzilla" (not a name I would have voted for, but I support developer Mike Macgirvin's right to decide how it was decided.) https://redmatrix.me/pubsites I haven't seen a list of public non-developer Hubzilla sites yet, perhaps there aren't any yet. The (as yet unfinished) documentation for Hubzilla is linked from https://macgirvin.com/help In order for a "Red Matrix" Hub to become a Hub on "Hubzilla", the administrator will need to clone the Hub, (then possibly a separate step to recreate the channels?) and then copy the content to the recreated channels. So some of those who don't want to continue running a public Hub are leaving around now. Charles Roth MPC - <could stand for M.obile P.hone C.leaner but I'm guessing Member of Privy Council>; besieged by deteriorating health, both mental and physical, announced recently that he would be closing his hub https://parlementum.net/page/encycl/welcome on Friday 21st August, Spokane, Washington State, USA time. (I think he's a coffee AND tea snob & in WA, USA too! He recently publicly posted his street address but as he may not have realised it was public I won't post it here. [Yet another co-incidence similar to last time I went to repost something here, and another time not long before that too! Must be the spies, or the medication ...] ;~) At one stage he offered the setup and Domain name to anyone wanting to takeover the Hub, then later posted that he would probably shut down before 21st, now it looks like it will close on 21st. He has saved the content but who knows if it will appear again on another Hub? So if you want to check out his eccentric, eclectic links mix, you'd better go look at https://parlementum.net/chat/encycl/1&JS=1 soon. (A lot of "Red Matrix" seems to require Javascript enabled in a graphical browser in a GUI.) There may be more content and links only visible to some or all members of Red Matrix or Parlementum too. I haven't swallowed the red pill yet so I don't know what they see.