22 Nov
2019
22 Nov
'19
9:09 a.m.
Hi all,
While it is clear that speaking English makes you fat :
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index -
The first OECD countries in that list are USA, NZ, UK, Australia and
Canada) ,
.. does it has an impact on the brain mass index of its leaders too?
I just read last night Mr.Morrison:
“I am up for taking action on it, not just jabbering on about it,” he
told ABC radio.
“But I think to suggest, with just 1.3 per cent of global emissions,
that Australia doing something differently, more or less, would have
changed the fire outcome this season; I don’t think that stands up to
any credible scientific evidence at all.
“The suggestion in any way, shape or form, that … the individual
actions of Australia are impacting directly on specific fire events,
whether it is here or anywhere else in the world; that doesn’t bear up
to credible scientific evidence either.”
1.3% is 1 of 76. That is as one man of a boat crew of 76 is seeing a
deadly waterfall in front, and thinking: Well, I am just one of them,
it does not matter. And, btw, I am not doing it, I really try to avoid
the waterfall but you just don't see it. And, maybe, if you ask me in
private, the deadly waterfall does not exist. But don't quote me on
that.
Or is it the brain mass index of its population? I mean, why the heck
are you listen to this, voting for this, enduring this?
Or, in other words: Can you just stop making excuses, get up and make
your contribution, and help rowing?
Thank you
Peter
22 Nov
22 Nov
10:57 a.m.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 09:09, Peter Ross via luv-talk <luv-talk(a)luv.asn.au>
wrote:
Hi all,
While it is clear that speaking English makes you fat :
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index -
The first OECD countries in that list are USA, NZ, UK, Australia and
Canada) ,
.. does it has an impact on the brain mass index of its leaders too?
I just read last night Mr.Morrison:
“I am up for taking action on it, not just jabbering on about it,” he
told ABC radio.
“But I think to suggest, with just 1.3 per cent of global emissions,
that Australia doing something differently, more or less, would have
changed the fire outcome this season; I don’t think that stands up to
any credible scientific evidence at all.
“The suggestion in any way, shape or form, that … the individual
actions of Australia are impacting directly on specific fire events,
whether it is here or anywhere else in the world; that doesn’t bear up
to credible scientific evidence either.”
1.3% is 1 of 76. That is as one man of a boat crew of 76 is seeing a
deadly waterfall in front, and thinking: Well, I am just one of them,
it does not matter. And, btw, I am not doing it, I really try to avoid
the waterfall but you just don't see it. And, maybe, if you ask me in
private, the deadly waterfall does not exist. But don't quote me on
that.
Or is it the brain mass index of its population? I mean, why the heck
are you listen to this, voting for this, enduring this?
Or, in other words: Can you just stop making excuses, get up and make
your contribution, and help rowing?
Thank you
Peter
I couldn't avoid a little chuckle at this - rowing, as in to propel with
oars vs rowing, a noisy quarrel.
--
Colin Fee
tfeccles(a)gmail.com
12:23 p.m.
Peter Ross via luv-talk wrote:
1.3% is 1 of 76. That is as one man of a boat crew of 76 is seeing a
deadly waterfall in front, and thinking: Well, I am just one of them,
it does not matter. And, btw, I am not doing it, I really try to avoid
the waterfall but you just don't see it. And, maybe, if you ask me in
private, the deadly waterfall does not exist. But don't quote me on
that.
Peter;
lets take your analogy; the literal fact is that the 1 of 76 is not
going to stop the boat;
going over the waterfall; the hope would be that this action would
influence the other 75.
If you wish to speak to other than the converted and avoid helping right
wing demagogues like ,
Morrison you need to make this clear.
Human created climate change will take many years to rectify even with
consensus and effective action.
Thus perhaps a better contribution to safety in the bush-fire seasons
in coming years
would be design of seriously bush-fire resistant houses
-built only from non combustible materials
-built into or under the ground to avoid radiant heat flux
-including extremely large underground water storage for spray
irrigation systems
- -including large solar powered storage underground to drive such
irrigation.
regards Rohan McLeod
12:39 p.m.
Peter Ross via luv-talk wrote:
Hi all,
While it is clear that speaking English makes you fat :
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index -
The first OECD countries in that list are USA, NZ, UK, Australia and
Canada) ,
Obviously a joke, but given the context, I feel compelled to point out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
.. does it has an impact on the brain mass index of
its leaders too?
I just read last night Mr.Morrison:
“But I think to suggest, with just 1.3 per cent of global emissions,
that Australia doing something differently, more or less, would have
changed the fire outcome this season; I don’t think that stands up to
any credible scientific evidence at all.
Fortunately we do not need to rely on Mr. Morrison's OPINION, because we can just look
at the DATA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
See also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Australia#Politics
Late 1980s clear consensus need for action between the two major political parties.
1991 incoming right wing governments began framing science of climate change as a
continuing debate.
1997 Australia 1 of only 2 countries to not ratify the Kyoto Protocol.^[12]
2007 both parties promising action on climate change
2007 new Labor government immediately ratified Kyoto
2009 Abbott blocks Labor's climate change bill
2010 Labor drops climate change bill
2012 Gillard implements carbon "tax"
2014 Abbott repeals carbon "tax"
2015 Turnbull takes over, changes nothing
2018 Morrison takes over, changes nothing
So you can see that looking across a generation instead of an
election, both major parties have changed their narrative from
"we must do something" to
"we must do nothing".
PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics
(I haven't actually read it yet, though.)
23 Nov
23 Nov
2:39 a.m.
Hi,
On 22/11/19 9:09 am, Peter Ross via luv-talk wrote:
While it is clear that speaking English makes you fat
:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index -
The first OECD countries in that list are USA, NZ, UK, Australia and
Canada) ,
Sadly, I just thought of the 5 eyes with that line..... :(
A.
2:41 a.m.
On 23/11/19 2:39 am, Andrew McGlashan via luv-talk wrote:
Hi,
On 22/11/19 9:09 am, Peter Ross via luv-talk wrote:
Oh and also all those McDonalds burgers that Trump put on when
Whitehouse was in shutdown; at least it wasn't horrible jacks.
;-)
While it is clear that speaking English makes you
fat :
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index -
The first OECD countries in that list are USA, NZ, UK, Australia and
Canada) ,
Sadly, I just thought of the 5 eyes with that line..... :(
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