28 Jan
2020
28 Jan
'20
5:50 p.m.
https://medium.com/@jonnaivin/what-working-class-and-poor-white-people-need…
https://medium.com/@jonnaivin/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trum…
These articles are relevant to some of the people who were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson is
not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies (and
admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to vote for
people who have better economic policies and encourage your politicians to do
better about the economic issues.
AFAIK the "essential services act" has not been changed since it was used
against Victorian farmers in the 90s (so the Coalition didn't do anything
about it when they were in power).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNzRzZhR2Y
The intro to Rain on the Scarecrow is still relevant.
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28 Jan
28 Jan
7:07 p.m.
Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
Can I suggest that what Jonna Ivin-Patton needs to understand is that;
the cultural-working class regardless of their income level ;
are the vast irrational, xenophobic, economically myopic,
preservers-of-the-status-quo and
silent conservative majority; who voted in Adolf Hitler, John
Howard, Scot Morrison and Donald Trump.....
Here' rational' is used as : ' action or belief consistent with
knowledge" and because she
'rationally' can see that this demographic is not acting in it's own
economic self-interest;
she believes things can change by just bringing this, to their attention.
This is not he case; they are not rational......welcome to the real
world. :-)
regards Rohan McLeod
7:53 p.m.
On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 7:07:11 PM AEDT Rohan McLeod via luv-talk wrote:
Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
The working classes have less access to education and information.
https://medium.com/@jonnaivin/what-working-class-and-poor-white-people-nee
d-to-understand-about-rich-white-people-44157a370c8f
Can I suggest that what Jonna
Ivin-Patton needs to understand is that;
the cultural-working class regardless of their income level ;
are the vast irrational, xenophobic, economically myopic,
preservers-of-the-status-quo and
silent conservative majority; who voted in Adolf Hitler, John
Howard, Scot Morrison and Donald Trump..... Here' rational' is used as : ' action or
belief consistent with
knowledge" and because she
'rationally' can see that this demographic is not acting in it's own
economic self-interest;
she believes things can change by just bringing this, to their attention.
This is not he case; they are not rational......welcome to the real
world. :-)
People who are members of LUV have enough access to education and information
to become better informed than typical Pauline Hanson votes and they should do
so.
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9:19 p.m.
Hi,
On 28/1/20 5:50 pm, Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
These articles are relevant to some of the people who
were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson is
not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies (and
admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to vote for
people who have better economic policies and encourage your politicians to do
better about the economic issues.
Somebody said it much better than I could ever do so.
LNP won because people have no faith in either major party and the more
money in their own hands means that the people can make more of their
own choices.
The 2013 election was close, but Rabbit won despite how well Shorten
performed.
The 2016 election was bought by TurnCOST, but only just.
The 2019 election was bought by MoneyBagsNZClive ... how do you compete
with that business decision -- it cost him heaps for the campaign, but
it delivered much more than it cost.... TO HIMSELF and he is also setup
in NZ so that he can sue the AU government if it takes steps or makes
decisions to to lessen his own wealth, then we'll pay.
Politics here and around the world is totally screwed; it is never for
the people, it is now for the super rich and politicians are their pawns.
PleaseExplain is a total joke and the Muslim religion is one of extreme
goodness -- it is the radical ones of ALL religions that give every
otherwise good group a bad name that they don't deserve. In general,
most people are good people; it doesn't help that so many are poor and
oppressed, amongst other problems of the modern day (including, but not
limited to mental health and drug issues).
Heck, it disappoints me greatly when people talk down about other people
because they may or may not have a "special" condition. Autism and
Asperger's syndrome are great gifts, according to Russell, he thinks "I
am on the spectrum", but I don't believe that; if I was I would be sure
it would be something to be proud of and not ashamed of anyway.
What is the answer to AU politics, if not the world? I don't know right
now, as I am totally disgusted with ScumMo and his marketing team of
useless members. I know I am not them, but they, along with
PleaseExplain and MoneyBags, as well as TurnCOST and Rabbit were all a
total embarrassment to me as an Australian.
Cheers
A.
9:22 p.m.
Oh and it can get even worse, we could end up with TheDud as PM if we
are even more unlucky as a nation.
:(
9:55 p.m.
On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 9:19:13 PM AEDT Andrew McGlashan via luv-talk
wrote:
On 28/1/20 5:50 pm, Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
For the vast majority of the population voting for the LNP gives them less
money. People have to vote against their own best interests, as described in
the articles I cited.
These articles are relevant to some of the people
who were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson
is not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies
(and admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to
vote for people who have better economic policies and encourage your
politicians to do better about the economic issues.
Somebody said it much better than I could ever do so.
LNP won because people have no faith in either major party and the more
money in their own hands means that the people can make more of their
own choices. Politics here and around the world is totally screwed;
it is never for
the people, it is now for the super rich and politicians are their pawns.
Unless people vote for their own best interests and the best interests of the
country in general.
PleaseExplain is a total joke and the Muslim religion
is one of extreme
goodness -- it is the radical ones of ALL religions that give every
otherwise good group a bad name that they don't deserve. In general,
most people are good people; it doesn't help that so many are poor and
oppressed, amongst other problems of the modern day (including, but not
limited to mental health and drug issues).
Please name the actual politicians.
For any religion you can find good and bad people. Yes we should do something
about the health and drug problems in society to reduce crime.
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10:02 p.m.
Hi Russell,
Did you mean to reply off list?
On 28/1/20 9:55 pm, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 9:19:13 PM AEDT Andrew
McGlashan via luv-talk
wrote:
Yes, but the "marketing angle" and the mass media angles too, represent
that voting anything other than LNP will mean higher taxes -- if the
taxes are lower, then the perception is that you will have more money in
YOUR pocket.
It won't matter if everything goes up in price to become unaffordable,
you will "think" you are better off. It won't matter that health and
education will cost you more, because you can self educate and self
insure medically.
I'm sure you can work out the names, you are quite smart aren't you?
Rabbit -- Tony Abbot
TurnCOST -- Malcolm Turnbull (ghost of PMs past that won't go away!
MoneyBagsNZClive -- Clive Palma
PleaseExplain -- Pauline Hanson.
TheDud -- Peter Dutton.
ScumMo -- Scott Morrision.
Aren't those all self evident?
Did I miss any?
Cheers
A
On 28/1/20 5:50 pm, Russell Coker via luv-talk
wrote:
For the vast majority of the population voting for the LNP gives them less
money. People have to vote against their own best interests, as described in
the articles I cited. These articles are relevant to some of the people
who were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson
is not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies
(and admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to
vote for people who have better economic policies and encourage your
politicians to do better about the economic issues.
Somebody said it much better than I could ever do so.
LNP won because people have no faith in either major party and the more
money in their own hands means that the people can make more of their
own choices.
10:03 p.m.
On 28/1/20 10:02 pm, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
Hi Russell,
Did you mean to reply off list?
On 28/1/20 9:55 pm, Russell Coker wrote:
Palmer.....
Do you want to buy a farm? LOL
A.
On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 9:19:13 PM AEDT
Andrew McGlashan via luv-talk
wrote:
Yes, but the "marketing angle" and the mass media angles too, represent
that voting anything other than LNP will mean higher taxes -- if the
taxes are lower, then the perception is that you will have more money in
YOUR pocket.
It won't matter if everything goes up in price to become unaffordable,
you will "think" you are better off. It won't matter that health and
education will cost you more, because you can self educate and self
insure medically.
I'm sure you can work out the names, you are quite smart aren't you?
Rabbit -- Tony Abbot
TurnCOST -- Malcolm Turnbull (ghost of PMs past that won't go away!
MoneyBagsNZClive -- Clive Palma On 28/1/20 5:50 pm, Russell Coker via luv-talk
wrote:
For the vast majority of the population voting for the LNP gives them less
money. People have to vote against their own best interests, as described in
the articles I cited. These articles are relevant to some of the people
who were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson
is not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies
(and admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to
vote for people who have better economic policies and encourage your
politicians to do better about the economic issues.
Somebody said it much better than I could ever do so.
LNP won because people have no faith in either major party and the more
money in their own hands means that the people can make more of their
own choices. 
29 Jan
29 Jan
11:22 a.m.
Andrew McGlashan via luv-talk wrote:
On 28/1/20 5:50 pm, Russell Coker via luv-talk wrote:
Relevant:
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/02/political-failure-modes…
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/12/invaders-from-mars.html
These articles are relevant to some of the people
who were at the LUV BBQ.
Your problems in rural areas are not related to Muslims and Pauline Hanson is
not the solution. The biggest problems are due to Coalition policies (and
admittedly Labor policies aren't much better) and the solution is to vote for
people who have better economic policies and encourage your politicians to do
better about the economic issues.
Somebody said it much better than I could ever do so.
LNP won because people have no faith in either major party and the more
money in their own hands means that the people can make more of their
own choices. PleaseExplain is a total joke and the Muslim religion
is one of extreme
goodness -- it is the radical ones of ALL religions that give every
otherwise good group a bad name that they don't deserve.
See for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull
The 2013 election was close, but Rabbit won [...]
The 2016 election was bought by TurnCOST, but only just.
The 2019 election was bought by MoneyBagsNZClive [....]
Please use actual names, rather than rhyming slurs.
Otherwise I struggle to understand who you're talking about.
Also, it encourages criticism based on appearance rather than policy.
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