Anyone has any experience with the very cheap bottom end android pad like the Pendo Pad selling for around $70 and similar ones. I realise they are cheap for a reason compared to Nexus - I also know they dont have 3G. But how good are they for only basic web browsing, checking email etc. IF I have to throw away a device after 2 yrs because of battery or accidental breakage, I'd better throw away $70 than $350. Daniel. (ps: also moving this to Luv-talk, so please reply there). On 12/12/2013 10:05, Craig Sanders wrote:

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 03:14:25PM +1030, Ryan Verner wrote:

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Before you return it for warranty, the issue may be that the battery has entirely drained and it won't recharge. It's a "design fault", affects mine too.

Try this:

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/27/fix-nexus-7-refusing-to-charge-try-this...

the article states that this is due to a firmware bug that only appeared after the 4.2 update.

that sounds more like a software update that included some planned obsolescence. or more like forced rather than planned.

a lot of users will just assume the battery is dead and discover or decide that it is far easier to just buy a new one than to attempt to enforce their warranty rights.

apple lost a class action lawsuit in the US several years back because their ipad batteries weren't replaceable and were designed to last, iirc, only 18 months or less. i would expect and hope that winning a class action against a company that issued a software update that falsely simulated the battery dying would be a much easier prospect.

craig

ps: i'm very happy with my (original model) Nexus 7. excellent device. I haven't allowed it to reboot to install the update it has been nagging about for a few months though. mostly because my level of trust of google has gone from "extremely low" to "none" and i'd rather install cyanogenmod or something else...but i made the mistake of not rooting the nexus 7 when i bought it over a year ago so will likely lose all of my data + settings when i do get around to rooting it.

if my nexus 7 died (really died - cracked screen or whatever), i'd almost certainly buy another one. but i'd root it and install CM or something immediately.

and i don't think i'd install the google-apps bundle. google's play store is full of shit (a perfect example of Sturgeon's Law), fdroid's got most of the apps i actually need (the rest i can live without), and the only google service i'd really have to find a replacement for is google calendar. i'd be better off running my own calendar daemon if i could find an android calendar app that could connect to it (i already know that iceowl can be made to connect to any ical service)