Hello, Looking at these pages: http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/67456/Ivy-Bridge-E http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/29902/ What does "Formerly Ivy Bridge E" and "Formerly Ivy Bridge" mean? Are these 3rd generation/Ivy Bridge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) Or 4th generation/Haswell? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell-E Reason for asking is that I am looking purchasing a computer that is advertised as using 4th generation chips, and it uses "Formally Ivy Bridge E" chips. Which appear to be 3rd generation not 4th generation. I contacted the seller and got a response that confused me even more (they are based on 3rd generation Ivy Bridge E but released as 4th generation??), so just trying to work out what the situation is. Thanks -- Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au>