On 12/01/2013 7:18 PM, Trent W. Buck wrote:
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
Thank you for your efforts, but I am still not convinced ISTR a study showing the more evidence you provide, the more people tend to cling to their (contraindicated) beliefs. Anybody have a reference?
What evidence? I'm sure the poor Dr is a great astronomer but how the hell does that prove your religious fervour toward climate change is correct? Even Rick Moen, who is normally the most intelligent of those on this list has been coming out with some total bullshit. Rick associated someone to something bad and suggested they were bad because of his association. Way to be a religious fundamentalist Rick! Note how I am using your attack methodology here. :-P I just laughed it off. The most ridiculous thing Rick did was to equate Kiribati sea level problems to climate change. Kiribati is a group of atolls, see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati Atolls by their nature sink(1). Sinking has no corresponding connection whatsoever to any climate calamity. But that didn't stop Rick from attributing it to sacrilege, the offending of his great and holy god, the environment (blessed be His name). If we had a document that had been produced by eminent scientists from, say, the CSIRO, Tasmania and Canberra Uni as well as the Southampton Oceanography Centre that showed absolutely what sea levels had done since, oh say, 1841, then we would have a definitive starting point to measure that _actual_ effect of climate change. Oh wait, here it is: http://keyportarthur.org.au/extras/1044/The%20sea%20level%20at%20PA%20from%2... http://soer.justice.tas.gov.au/2003/casestudy/4/index.php It shows that the sea has risen less than the lowest climate change prediction. Now that is a fact. Not that there is more or less CO2 in the atmosphere, that may or may not be a symptom. Does the lack of sea rise prove or disprove climate change? I have no idea. Human induced climate change may or may not still be happening but I am so sick and tired of either side claiming they know it all when they are bot full of shit. Usually, I might add, they are more interested in supporting their particular brand of religion than the truth. Rick, I know most of the people on this list are so narrow minded they they are terribly smart in the "field"but I expected far, far more from you "ow great and wise one". I hope I don't have to bitch-slap you again when it comes the zealotry. (1) For the completely stupid! Atolls are formed when volcanoes brake through sea surface and are rimmed by coral. Then the volcano sinks. Leaving the atoll. You can stop at the sinking part. Cheers, Mike PS Sorry Trent but my straw camel back just broke. ;-)