
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:44 PM Trent W. Buck via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Can you expand on this? It sounds like you're talking about "collective responsiblity" (as opposed to conscience votes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibility I thought Australia's version was pretty typical for the anglosphere.
US, UK and AU have another thing in common: leaders who do not respect the parliament and claim to be above them. Trump has the swamp, Johnson a parliament which works against its people and Morrison the Canberra bubble. Yes, Germany's Far-Right AfD claims also to be "anti-elite" and believes the rest of the politicians are governing against their people's will. And yes, they know their predecessors very well, who came into power after an election with 30% of the votes, and after the parliament burned, they let the mask slip and became openly totalitarian. Medevac last week was a farce, ending up with a senator doing a deal or not, but we don't know because she claims to be gagged by national security concerns. The Australian parliament is now a bunker. Literally. And Australia as a whole is a fact-free zone. The similarities to German history are too many to feel happy here. Well, let it burn, let it burn.. Have a good weekend Peter On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:44 PM Trent W. Buck via luv-talk <luv-talk@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Paul Dwerryhouse via luv-talk wrote:
On 5/12/19 9:55 am, Paul van den Bergen via luv-talk wrote:
My take on a lot of this is that Australia has one of the most representative electoral systems in the world (states not withstanding)
Australia doesn't have a very representative electoral system. Our lower house voting system results in a particularly unrepresentative parliament,
I was going to comment on this, too, but couldn't be arsed. In particular, .de and .nz use MMP and that seems to Suck Less overall?
Debian uses Condorcet which is obviously the most maximally sexy (of SINGLE-winner systems), but hard to explain to the Great Unwashed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_criterion#Instant-runoff_voting
Combine this with a far stricter party discipline system than either the UK or the US have, and we get a democracy that really isn't serving its people well at all.
Can you expand on this? It sounds like you're talking about "collective responsiblity" (as opposed to conscience votes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibility I thought Australia's version was pretty typical for the anglosphere. _______________________________________________ luv-talk mailing list luv-talk@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-talk